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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg

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so we're joined by a new friend of the

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power cast this week with Gene Chris and

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that's Richard Serra dead but he is not

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a stranger if you're listening to dark

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matters radio show from our friend Don

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Ecker

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you've heard him radio mysterioso from

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none other than Greg Bishop you've heard

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about Richard and we're going to ask why

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Greg called Richard the quiet researcher

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but first we should introduce them to

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our audience since its its first time

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here so welcome Richard well Thank You G

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as a pleasure to be here with you at

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Christmas now if we go back to your

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history you go to the Internet Movie

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find the name Richard Saturday they did

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a three-year stint on General Hospital

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yep I'm not a doctor but I've played one

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on TV you know oh well there's some

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doctors that you visit in the real world

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you think might have played one on TV

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based on their knowledge but we don't

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want to criticize doctors most to really

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dedicated professionals oh well except

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the ones who always try to find

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something they can do to exact a few

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thousand dollars out of you like my wife

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went to an eye doctor a couple of weeks

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ago for a vision issue in a test and

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he's starting to list all the laser

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stuff they can do to her they're all

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recruiting men is like it's incredible

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it's just amazing okay so a plaintiff Oh

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doctors actually what I played a lawyer

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actually so I didn't really play a

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doctor on General Hospital I was a

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Harvard bred lawyer

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I'll read Lansing the rock so it are

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their replays of these soaps from those

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years that people can see you know a

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couple now again are putting up clips

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like I see the nice alexander who played

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at the time she was kind of queen of the

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soul we took one back to I was on from

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like 78 to 80 war and she was like the

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queen of the soaps you remember the

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character that Sally Field played and

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that and that movie so far well

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oh that with Robert Downey jr. yeah he

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field and you just knew that Robert

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Downey jr. owned the stage whenever he

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was on No

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grabs it right I mean he owns the stage

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when he ever is on it this amazing actor

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I just saw the Avengers the other day a

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lot of great actors there Golden Globe

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Awards and everything Robert Downey jr.

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as Ironman gets there and that's it

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that's it he's just smarter than

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everybody else around him that's it okay

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so basically the soap character in a

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comedy movie very funny movie a Sally

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kind of characters you see in a soap

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like General Hospital sense of what it's

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like backstage you know they they a

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competition the back fighting the

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desperation you know I remember when I

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first came on the show and I had never

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even seen a soap opera when I got this

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this interview and I got the job you

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know I've never seen this whole

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operation with the three cameras and

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this set she stocked up side-by-side and

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you just the cameras roll from one set

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to another and you just keep moving you

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know and and you're doing you know 44

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minutes of television a day in the camp

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you know and when I do film work you

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might get two or three minutes of

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filming the cam in a day it's more like

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doing stage work you know you really got

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to have your stuff down occasionally

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they stop and reshoot a scene but if

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they have to reshoot a lot of scenes man

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it gets too expensive you know you end

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up in those 12 16 hour days and lots of

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overtime so one of the prerequisites you

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gotta be able to do it and do it that

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now remember before we had wide use of

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videotape and stuff like that in the 50s

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those things live like a play with

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missteps and all yeah thank God you know

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last question you departure from General

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no I went off to Europe to console

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myself after one of my clients I found

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her dead and her in her apartment so

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they you know they kind of truncated my

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storyline because there were various

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reasons one is they had brought a woman

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on board who's becoming my love interest

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but she was so intimidated by the

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producer Gloria Monte that she could

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never relax on camera should be fine and

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rehearsals but the moment get on camera

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and I'd say something to her and look at

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her it was like looking into a deer in

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the headlights you know and she'd be

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looking for that lion and kind of

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flattened out and just kind of desperate

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and they kept waiting for the relax they

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gave her about six months and they

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finally just flushed it and when they

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flushed her they flushed the guy who

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played her husband who played my brother

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in the show I come on the show after

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them but they said okay we're flush that

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whole storyline and if they

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they all got fired tonight up staying

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well we just plug you in here and there

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because you know we want to keep using

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you but I just kind of dribbled around

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in the background until the end of my

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contract and I got offered other

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contracts in New York City from other

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ABC soaps and I went you know what I

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don't want to do anymore so I decided to

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kick out and that's when I started

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making money commercials and then doing

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occasional guest star appearance on TV

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shows like Knott's landing and like the

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Bionic Woman so you have a little Jean

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Raqqah nection there but if we are

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remembering the commercials of the 80s

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we'll get to your paranormal background

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in a moment if we remember the

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commercials from the 1980s what products

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will we remember your voice or face with

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a beard riding a bicycle I was in a

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commercial for the first commercial for

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Bud Light when they were introducing Bud

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Light it's not the ones those showbiz

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stories where I just wanna GH I went

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with my wife to Aspen for three weeks

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and ski because she had a house there

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does she co-owned with somebody else and

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so we ski for three weeks I let my beard

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grow I came back to town

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okay General Hospital's over and now

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gonna go out and find your work and you

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know the it was sort of like make sure

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you distance yourself from that

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character everybody sees you as and my

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commercial agent said you're dead with

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the beer there's no work for you with

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beer there's no commercial work for you

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with the beer then a request came along

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for somebody with bicycle riding

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experience for this Bud Light commercial

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and they said you perfect for this but

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you got to shave the beard I said well

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I'm not gonna shave it let's get a call

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back or something fault

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no okay so I went on the audition and

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you know and throwing my hands in the

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air crossing the finish line next thing

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I know they're flying me up to Eugene

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Oregon for four days of shooting you

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know you have to be really in shape

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because they tried to shoot this thing

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with professional bicycle racers but

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they couldn't get their quote-unquote

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performance out of them so they sent

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back to LA they're already up there in

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the middle of production looking for a

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replacement actor so I got blown up in

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the middle of it had to jump right in on

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the second day after doing this he'll

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climb four times with all the

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professional riders you know the client

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from the Eddy says you know why you got

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the job I said no the beard he said we

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somewhat ah that's it oh boy I love the

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irony yeah all the way down the line now

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of course kris has been with and without

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beard as far as I got was the moustache

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a long long time ago

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other galaxies okay gene that's that's a

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scary thought me and a mustache huh it

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was the seventies it's the cop look man

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it's the Minutemen at work look you know

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that's right you know you look at you

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know Mad Men or something there because

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anyway the paranormal you've been an

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actor you're a teacher now how does the

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paranormal enter this game well

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paranormal not a term I would have used

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when I got into this game you know

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getting into the game of the paranormal

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is more like trying to find things to

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explain your own experiences a lot of

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people to get into UFO field because

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they're trying to go whoa what was that

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I saw what was that happened and I come

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from a family which my mother was like

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that my grandmother was like that we'd

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have what they used to call a second

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so throughout my growing up I had

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interesting and weird experiences

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nothing I would relate to the field of

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ufos or abduction but when I first came

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to Hollywood in 1971 after the army and

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after going back the University of

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Kansas getting my degree in theater came

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out here you know the degree in theater

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and Oliver gets a cup of coffee and you

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know it's trying to pursue that but the

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same time I was very in stood in this

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I'd also gone through you know like many

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of our generation I'd explored other

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states of consciousness which drugs LSD

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and the psilocybin and DMT I kind of

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tasted a little bit everything I never

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pursued it like repetitively because I

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was very cautious about I was you know

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the experiences were intense and I

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didn't see it as a like a recreational

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thing I saw it more as an investigation

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thing and it was very draining

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Miranda eventually I you know got there

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four or five or six experiences I went

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okay that's good for me you know and

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left it alone but then then over the

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next few years the insights I've gotten

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from that those experiences the idea

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that so much is controlled by the way we

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perceive things and how our mind runs

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through things you know and you watch

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his mind run when you're on on a

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psychedelic sometimes like if you see

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something a little bit scary and you pay

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attention to it suddenly it blossoms

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into something really scary and you know

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experienced rippers would say go with

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the flow go with the flow don't fight it

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because if you fight it it just

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intensified if you if you wrote it it

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usually broke out to something else you

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know that's one thing other scarpered so

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it helped me

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examine how how I operated so to speak

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and then I begin to leaving drugs behind

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I begin to really pursue a kind of a

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spiritual path through the Edgar Cayce

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foundation a re and I eventually started

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a study group that met once a week in my

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house and about five or six would meet

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and we did a little search for God's

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researcher himself Richard Serra Det

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joining gene and Chris and the parent

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cast you've heard Richard on dark

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matters radio radio mysterioso and all

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other places like that but I want to

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find out before we get into the main

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subject of our session this phrase the

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quiet researcher from where did it

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originate I think it comes to the fact

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that I met Greg way back in the early

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90s when I was working very very closely

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with you hole magazine Madonna Vicky Don

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I'd partner died approached and made a

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deal to say look let's I want to develop

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projects for film and television around

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this subject and I've been reading your

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magazine and you guys are good and

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you're the only game in town so we

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partnered and then Don and I developed

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ideas for a show actually we develop

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what you see is UFO Hunters today we

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really develop that kind of concept way

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back in the early 90s man we were out

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pitching it like 32 episodes and we put

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them out there and we were just ahead of

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the curve you know that pitching to the

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producers and pitching to networks I get

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the meetings would go in to be

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fascinated to ask for more information

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and then we'd never hear from again you

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know now this is the way how many would

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works yeah and I seem to be interested

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in the concept you go there and you do

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what is called the pitch which is some

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kind of super sales job right right

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okay but you never really know what's

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going to happen is there any way to read

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yeah you know it's gonna happen they're

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gonna rip off your good idea and run

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with it well there is that

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well yeah and that actually exactly what

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happened that's exactly

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would happen to Don and I and it was

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very frustrating but you know it's sort

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of like this sounds a little bit like

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the embittered guy and maybe there's a

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little bit it's like there's a kind of

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an informal club of people the top and

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just like if they want you to club they

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let you in if they don't they just take

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what they want from you and move on you

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know and this is the experience of most

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people in Hollywood I have several

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friends of screenwriters who've just

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been directly ripped off and I mean by

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even by Spielberg's outfit dream one you

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know DreamWorks they all just take a

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scrip one of the sub produces not

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necessarily Spielberg himself my friend

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is sold in one script for $300,000 and

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then he they start hiring there's a

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script fixer and then he submit another

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one of the scripts to one of the

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producers the guy returned in about a

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week and said no I'm not interested in

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the following weeks he sees the script

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with the small alterations was just sold

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he saw them in variety to DreamWorks buy

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this producer for a million dollars and

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he was like a minute that's my script so

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he contacts his manager says hey and the

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response was very interesting they go

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well he had what we're not gonna go

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we're not taking Emma lon you know we're

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you know we gotta have a relation but

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those guys if we do that we'll never get

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any ends there again I want to ask a

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question here as I understand it because

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I've written treatments myself on a few

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occasions very few and you see where

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they went

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I've written some treatments you

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register this information at the writers

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guild is the Writers Union supposedly if

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you do that the concept is copyrighted

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for writers they shouldn't steal it it

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doesn't stop them no it doesn't it's

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just the big boys get their way that's

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the way to you know well the irony here

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though that you and Don come out with an

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idea of something like a UFO Hunters

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type of show in the 90s and we look at

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Don being involved with UFO magazine

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then he sells it off to bill birnes who

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then with the people he worked with sold

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the idea of UFO Hunters any direct

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connection or what I we don't know we

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really don't know because part of their

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personal magazine a lot of material that

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you know we had got turned over I don't

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know if the copies of R&D productions

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material got turned over them or not but

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you know they were covering all the same

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territory we're you know we had 32

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episodes outline plus a another couple

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of paragraphs saying other things we

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could develop you know and you don't

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know you just don't know I mean we saw a

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lot of

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topics covered by UFO Hunters and our

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concept was was what's quite a bit

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different there was kind of a hybrid

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between being an in-studio and then a

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segment would be in the field you know

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that kind of thing and we would have

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periods of the show where we recount or

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follow up on stories we told you or are

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an ongoing investigation and we hope to

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pick up some real field investigators

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like a christopher o'brien you know who

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could become like an expert in a field

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reporter for us and a particular thing I

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didn't take like the work that Chris

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does the admirable wonderful work that

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Chris does and move it to a different

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city like UFO Hunters data well we had

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in our budget an RV for a moat Connor

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unit that we get to go on in the field

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and shoot and record an even broadcast

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live from there that was part of the

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concept and that was yeah but then once

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you get something you will take it back

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to the studio and analyze it I mean this

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new show chasing UFOs in the first

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episode they got this pretty compelling

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footage and that was the last you ever

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heard of it I mean to me that's

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ludicrous it is it's what happens when

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you approach Hollywood with the show

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that you know like this it's like they

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have these ideas in their head about

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what sells and remember pitching you

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pitching an idea and they started

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rubbing you like well can we can we make

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that into a younger woman and make it a

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lot of inches maybe we get who's hot

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right now yeah we'll get Kim bashing you

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to do that for you know you but that's a

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real character oh it doesn't matter you

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know so you just gotta let go of the

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idea that you can accomplish something

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significant because they're gonna turn

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them into what they think is gonna get

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ready and you have no control so you

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just gotta decide to live with it and

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take the paycheck or get out really

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sucks

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pardon the expression is that 95% of the

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people that work on these shows in the

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research departments the in

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post-production

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the crews that go out in the field the

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field producers the directors they don't

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have a clue about the subject matter and

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and that that is so frustrating I just

544
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did a shoot a couple of days ago all day

545
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with ancient aliens and I'm I'm telling

546
00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:11,120
you it's like trying to take a blind

547
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person and have them read an eye chart

548
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or a deaf person and try to start

549
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putting tones in their ears

550
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hey there's a major disconnect

551
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between the masa Nations and the machine

552
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that creates us this programming and the

553
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actual subject matter it to me it's

554
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really disheartening it is disheartening

555
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because you're really operating on a two

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different value systems and you're

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seeing a clash of value system well the

558
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thing also is that the way Hollywood

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views it is from the MBA viewpoint if it

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being product to sell this is product to

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sell how do we alter this product in a

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way that will get the largest audience

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the largest audience in the demographics

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they have to reach which is what twenty

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five to forty nine or something like

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that yeah they've got to jump through a

567
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lot of Hoops and prove to the networks

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that there's enough interest to generate

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enough eyeballs the front of the TV set

570
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for them to even take an interest in it

571
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and don't forget also with the amount of

572
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channels we have now on cable and TV

573
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being the monster that never sleeps

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you've got to have product to put on the

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air if you want to keep your license so

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you got to get anything up there like

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the first two years of sci-fi channel

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when they finally got their cable

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channel and I talked to him they were

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very interested in our stuff but they

581
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said you know we already blew our budget

582
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but next two years

583
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you know buying packages of all reruns

584
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like the old Battlestar Galactica

585
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Galactica the old B series and they just

586
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put nest up on here to kind of get the

587
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channel going while they try to develop

588
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their own material and the guy said well

589
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contact us in about two years maybe we

590
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can do something by that time I had to

591
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go out and earn a paycheck well you know

592
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what's funny with all the garbage that

593
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goes on TV there are some shows I like I

594
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like some of the stuff on sci-fi channel

595
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because it is really fun some of it is

596
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really nicely done and we know the

597
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audiences they grab it nowhere near what

598
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the big networks get but they have some

599
00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:54,049
nice stuff and there are really good

600
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creative people working but trying to do

601
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something different like a UFO show

602
00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:01,159
within the Hollywood system is just

603
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impossible and we look at the experience

604
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:05,360
of chasing UFOs where they've got one

605
00:22:09,820 --> 00:22:08,240
guy there James Fox who's a dedicated

606
00:22:12,460 --> 00:22:09,830
UFO researcher has done good

607
00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:12,470
documentaries really good work the

608
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:15,350
fellow is honest to a bone as far as I

609
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can tell I mean I've had conversations

610
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with him since the show went on the air

611
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and he was very unhappy about how things

612
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turned out

613
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he's hoping to work from within the

614
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system to make it better especially if

615
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it goes to a second year but you have

616
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gone through the Hollywood system more

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than any of us you know we can wish him

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luck

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but it's not going to turn out Richard

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calm hi this is Don Ecker and you are

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tuned in to the para cast let me tell

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you what you're gonna hear stuff here

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that you probably won't hear anywhere

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else

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here that George Noory we find that

730
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although he is the quiet researcher

731
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Richard Serra debt has a lot to say with

732
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Jean and Chris and the power cast let's

733
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:25,640
look at some of the things that you've

734
00:27:32,290 --> 00:27:28,000
embraced over the years and covered and

735
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,300
one of them is the late dr. carla turner

736
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now just so people will understand she

737
00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:35,990
died

738
00:27:40,330 --> 00:27:38,870
back in 1996 i guess a year after my

739
00:27:43,570 --> 00:27:40,340
brother died as a matter of fact she was

740
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only 48 years old and you think of the

741
00:27:48,010 --> 00:27:45,890
age 48 and that's not even middle age

742
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anymore because chris is a little bit

743
00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:50,510
older than that Richard and I are a lot

744
00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:52,190
older than that and we're still here

745
00:27:59,470 --> 00:27:56,270
so we do know that dr. Turner was a UFO

746
00:28:02,080 --> 00:27:59,480
abduction investigator and also label as

747
00:28:03,550 --> 00:28:02,090
a human rights activist how so well you

748
00:28:05,650 --> 00:28:03,560
know she's a remarkable individual by

749
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,660
the way her doctorate is in Old English

750
00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:07,520
Studies now you talk about a you know a

751
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,390
kind of a small little area to be a PhD

752
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:13,520
in and she was teaching at North Texas

753
00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:16,010
State in Denton she has a very easting

754
00:28:20,980 --> 00:28:18,350
personal history uh more so than myself

755
00:28:23,230 --> 00:28:20,990
of having you know I guess when you term

756
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,240
today paranormal experiences visions

757
00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:26,000
dreams communications things like that

758
00:28:29,470 --> 00:28:27,950
she had a whole history of that so she

759
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:29,480
even tells a story and I was trying to

760
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,250
find it and I haven't found the other in

761
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:33,200
one of our books about this weird

762
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:35,360
journey she took to India and I forget

763
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:36,770
the details and I'm trying to find it I

764
00:28:40,090 --> 00:28:37,910
was trying to find it for this morning

765
00:28:42,610 --> 00:28:40,100
and it was like she was being guided

766
00:28:44,410 --> 00:28:42,620
there by visions and dreams and just

767
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:44,420
told it go and then take a bus here and

768
00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:45,770
you stand there and somebody would come

769
00:28:49,210 --> 00:28:47,900
and you know she just kind of went well

770
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,220
what the hell I'm you know in for a

771
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:51,200
penny in for a pound and she ended up

772
00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:53,330
being guided to a monastery and having

773
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:55,190
some interesting weird experience up

774
00:28:58,990 --> 00:28:57,530
there meeting a guru and then she's you

775
00:29:01,060 --> 00:28:59,000
know all this happens by the way

776
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:01,070
something that doesn't even belong in

777
00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:02,810
the time sequence of linear frame of her

778
00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:04,220
life it just kind of happens and she

779
00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:06,500
returns like all this time passed but

780
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:08,270
she comes back no time to pass there's

781
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:10,550
very strange so she was already out

782
00:29:15,370 --> 00:29:13,310
there in her world experiences and hers

783
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:15,380
weren't a average person's experience it

784
00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:17,210
now is there a connection between that

785
00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:20,060
and that that came targeted for these

786
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:22,790
experiences which to this day I can't

787
00:29:26,350 --> 00:29:24,890
vouch for where they come from or who is

788
00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:26,360
doing it or what's doing it

789
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:27,830
but that it's it's actually a

790
00:29:31,090 --> 00:29:29,210
manipulation that there's something

791
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:31,100
being done is happening from outside you

792
00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:32,570
coming into you if that I'm convinced

793
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:35,180
how much of it is extraterrestrial are

794
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:37,610
crypto terrestrial or whatever you want

795
00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:39,290
to call it and how much of it is

796
00:29:44,170 --> 00:29:41,780
sophisticated technology still remains a

797
00:29:45,490 --> 00:29:44,180
very very significant question and I'll

798
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:45,500
tell you over the years I think one of

799
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:46,610
the reason they call me the quiet

800
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:48,650
researcher is because one of the things

801
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:50,570
I learned early on and about going back

802
00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:53,330
to even before Madonna and Vicky was as

803
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:54,950
I was very very instant kind of

804
00:29:58,750 --> 00:29:56,690
understanding this from a personal point

805
00:30:00,370 --> 00:29:58,760
of view and even before four years

806
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:00,380
before contraband I'm Vicki I was doing

807
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:01,850
my own reading and research not

808
00:30:05,140 --> 00:30:03,470
discovery there weren't as many books

809
00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:05,150
available discovered jacques ballet and

810
00:30:09,460 --> 00:30:07,400
he very much shaped my thinking because

811
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:09,470
is thinking seem to reflect a little bit

812
00:30:13,210 --> 00:30:11,420
of what I'd kind of come to from my own

813
00:30:15,310 --> 00:30:13,220
experience that this is much more

814
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:15,320
complicated not nearly as simple as

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being a simple you know

816
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extra-terrestrial hypothesis it's much

817
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more complicated and much more intimate

818
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than that it's very vexing and I I don't

819
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think we'll ever totally understand it

820
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but in order to try to get information I

821
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found the best way is to have a big set

822
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of years in a very small mouth and just

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kind of cruise around and and be

824
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discreet and talk to people and don't

825
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make a big deal out of it and what I

826
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sought out I always thought out direct

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experience you know like I wanted to I

828
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wanted to see if there was something

829
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worth pursuing myself so I always like

830
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to go out and participate our experience

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there get in the field and see if I

832
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could find what was going on rather than

833
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just reading about it in books what I

834
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found was that even with all this

835
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research you myth all the up and up and

836
00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:00,050
into it I couldn't say I could give you

837
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a black or white answer on any of this

838
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stuff

839
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I have lots of clues and over the time I

840
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talk to a lot of people who worked in

841
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aerospace engineers retired people old

842
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military people I would just I just

843
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talked to everybody and I just kind of

844
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hang in a background that you know

845
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conferences I would hang in a fringes I

846
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would you know and then if I want to

847
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talk to somebody I would just kind of

848
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run into them and maybe chat and just

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kind of like just trying to stay

850
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low-profile trying to stay invisible and

851
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just try to gather information you know

852
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and it was mostly because I wanted to

853
00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:35,510
know and even after all our attempts to

854
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get TV stuff going with Donn and Vicki

855
00:31:41,769 --> 00:31:39,830
you know Don and I had to go on there

856
00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:41,779
spasm and make our Livingston I had to

857
00:31:46,830 --> 00:31:43,580
go and you know support my now growing

858
00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:46,840
family my passion for it remained in my

859
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,820
list of contacts people III sought out

860
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:51,919
information from you know quietly grew

861
00:31:56,049 --> 00:31:54,529
and it was just again I was I was

862
00:31:57,789 --> 00:31:56,059
looking for myself I wasn't at this

863
00:32:00,039 --> 00:31:57,799
point looking to produce anything or

864
00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:00,049
make money off but I just wanted to know

865
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:03,080
you know said how I went about it okay

866
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:05,809
so moving towards dr. Turner yeah

867
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:08,510
exciting about her life and her research

868
00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:12,710
and was there any reason to suspect her

869
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:14,899
death yeah I think there is significant

870
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,110
suspected death I really do you know one

871
00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:20,480
of the things in as far as who what what

872
00:32:23,860 --> 00:32:21,590
I might be involved in that that's

873
00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:23,870
another very big question no it was as a

874
00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:26,750
result of some sort of a medical

875
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:28,460
experiment where they taking people and

876
00:32:32,169 --> 00:32:30,529
trying to alter something in them and

877
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:32,179
maybe they haven't perfected it and

878
00:32:35,259 --> 00:32:34,010
there are certain side effects you know

879
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:35,269
the fact that she died of liver cancer

880
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:37,490
that doesn't seem like a you know a

881
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:39,470
targeted way to kill but it could be the

882
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:42,409
byproduct of a some experiment on her or

883
00:32:45,490 --> 00:32:43,010
whatever

884
00:32:47,049 --> 00:32:45,500
I actually was asked that's how I got in

885
00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:47,059
touch with initially is that while work

886
00:32:49,810 --> 00:32:48,260
with Donn and Vicki I said you know I'd

887
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:49,820
loved it like you know really write for

888
00:32:52,899 --> 00:32:51,289
the magazine and you know I haven't

889
00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:52,909
written in many years but it'd be fun so

890
00:32:56,980 --> 00:32:54,590
Vicki said well if you do a book review

891
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:56,990
so I did a book review on crash at

892
00:33:00,250 --> 00:32:58,850
Corona which they thought was good

893
00:33:02,110 --> 00:33:00,260
enough to publish and I did another one

894
00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:02,120
I forget what it was and then she said

895
00:33:04,779 --> 00:33:03,470
well here's the book we got into the

896
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:04,789
fringe you want to read this and maybe

897
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,950
write a review I said sure I took it

898
00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:08,480
home and read it and was like have you

899
00:33:14,590 --> 00:33:10,940
read into the fringe II W have you read

900
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:14,600
it I haven't read it no years ago after

901
00:33:19,389 --> 00:33:17,210
I met Carla what do you think of it her

902
00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:19,399
story is so you know in many ways

903
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:22,070
over-the-top but but having met her in

904
00:33:27,070 --> 00:33:25,010
and I saw how passionate and how focused

905
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:27,080
and how you know obviously bright and

906
00:33:32,009 --> 00:33:29,330
intelligent she was I I definitely had

907
00:33:34,690 --> 00:33:32,019
to you know that that tempered my

908
00:33:38,639 --> 00:33:34,700
suspension of disbelief in in some sense

909
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:38,649
but but you I was impressed yeah I think

910
00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:41,870
that marries exactly what my reaction to

911
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:43,940
her was for it Richard I'd like you to

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00:33:48,639 --> 00:33:45,919
actually explain more about the book

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00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:48,649
tour listeners sure what is the story

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00:33:53,539 --> 00:33:50,330
here what is the main focal point

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00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,190
all the trouble to write on the back

916
00:33:59,299 --> 00:33:57,840
cover I'll read to you here was my

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00:34:01,220 --> 00:33:59,309
husband a man of intelligence and great

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00:34:02,810 --> 00:34:01,230
analytic ability telling me about two

919
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:02,820
different childhood encounters with non

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00:34:07,009 --> 00:34:05,129
human being for Carl attorney began the

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spring of 88 but it hadn't really began

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00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:09,750
much earlier two months before our lives

923
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:12,119
were normal yet here we were being

924
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:13,470
followed in the middle of night having

925
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:14,970
spent the evening actually considering

926
00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:17,159
the absurd possibility that alien beings

927
00:34:21,740 --> 00:34:19,260
that somehow toughed alive we didn't

928
00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:21,750
realize at that time just how deeply and

929
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:23,700
irrevocably they would change our world

930
00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:25,950
dr. Turner her husband her child

931
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:27,540
there would be sudden shocking

932
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:29,490
discoveries of long buried memories as

933
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:31,079
well as actual physical evidence of

934
00:34:34,789 --> 00:34:33,119
ongoing intrusion the marks on their

935
00:34:37,220 --> 00:34:34,799
bodies the sighting is the missing time

936
00:34:38,659 --> 00:34:37,230
episodes quote sometimes I still try to

937
00:34:40,309 --> 00:34:38,669
pretend that it was all in our

938
00:34:42,139 --> 00:34:40,319
imagination it wasn't in their

939
00:34:43,789 --> 00:34:42,149
imaginations it was real and it's all

940
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,799
here in this most chilling convincing

941
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:45,599
account of the alien contact since

942
00:34:51,710 --> 00:34:49,049
communion now I think the most for me

943
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:51,720
having read it and after I read a book I

944
00:34:55,609 --> 00:34:53,609
would call the author and say okay I

945
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:55,619
wrote a review let me read it to you and

946
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:56,700
then we can discuss it and see if

947
00:34:59,599 --> 00:34:57,690
there's anything you want to say about

948
00:35:01,130 --> 00:34:59,609
it and so I did that and you know how

949
00:35:02,839 --> 00:35:01,140
engaging she is Chris we end up talking

950
00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:02,849
like for a couple hours on the phone and

951
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:05,640
then arranging to get in touch again and

952
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,140
and turned out it wasn't

953
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:09,440
I think the spring of 92 there was a

954
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:12,210
conference at traditional every year run

955
00:35:17,809 --> 00:35:15,540
by Lou Farris a UFO conference at Eureka

956
00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:17,819
Springs Arkansas any of you been to that

957
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:20,040
one that's where I met Carla actually

958
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:24,480
yeah was it then back in 92 or no it was

959
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:26,730
in 94 if I remember I think it was the

960
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:29,220
last time she was there maybe she had

961
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:33,480
been there in 95 I forget but I was

962
00:35:39,319 --> 00:35:36,960
there from 94 five six seven and I think

963
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:39,329
I need were you there I remember the

964
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,490
exact year I think for me it was 92 but

965
00:35:45,049 --> 00:35:42,960
I'm not sure it could have been 93 and

966
00:35:47,690 --> 00:35:45,059
it could have been 94 could have dug out

967
00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:47,700
the notes but that was the year that Lea

968
00:35:51,140 --> 00:35:49,470
Haley introduced herself at that

969
00:35:53,329 --> 00:35:51,150
conference with that the one you were up

970
00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:53,339
with John Mac and Leah Haley and John

971
00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:55,740
Carpenter mmm I think it may have been

972
00:35:59,960 --> 00:35:58,140
the year after that I think 94 was my

973
00:36:02,450 --> 00:35:59,970
first year well it seems to me the Urich

974
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the focus of that conference was usually

975
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the abduction phenomena on a previous

976
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977
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Mike

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are talking about lunar and Martian

979
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mysteries well coming next week we're

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former TV producer with expertise in

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space travel known as expat as the name

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is gonna go by next week we will

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continue with Richard Serra dead he is a

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quiet researcher and we're talking about

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the life and times of dr. karla turner

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dr. Turner was a UFO abduction

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researcher but also someone who had

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1102
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1103
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1104
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1105
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1106
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1107
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anyway okay so you met up Chris with dr.

1108
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Turner at one of Lou farish's events now

1109
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in general what is your take Chris on

1110
00:41:52,540 --> 00:41:50,599
abductions and what might have happened

1111
00:41:55,150 --> 00:41:52,550
to her well I think the abduction

1112
00:41:58,450 --> 00:41:55,160
phenomenon is something ancient that has

1113
00:42:00,609 --> 00:41:58,460
a history that goes back well into the

1114
00:42:05,140 --> 00:42:00,619
Middle Ages if not prior to that I mean

1115
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:05,150
you have exact eland Jakob and you know

1116
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:08,330
you go through the Mesopotamian cultures

1117
00:42:14,170 --> 00:42:12,530
the Harappan cultures even as we heard

1118
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:14,180
from Antonia who knows there's some

1119
00:42:18,490 --> 00:42:16,640
Mayan and even as tech abduction

1120
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:18,500
accounts so this is something that's

1121
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,170
been going on for a long time I think as

1122
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:23,359
the phenomenon progresses through the

1123
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:27,140
ages the details from the experiences

1124
00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:28,910
themselves tend to reflect the

1125
00:42:32,589 --> 00:42:31,160
technology and the level of Technology

1126
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,599
of the time so we're seeing something

1127
00:42:37,630 --> 00:42:34,640
that seems to be evolving along with us

1128
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:37,640
and that to me is a really big clue and

1129
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:39,710
of course which you mentioned Jacques

1130
00:42:45,099 --> 00:42:43,040
Vallee earlier in the conversation and I

1131
00:42:46,819 --> 00:42:45,109
think it's a point well taken at least

1132
00:42:49,099 --> 00:42:46,829
you know from my point

1133
00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:49,109
you and we're dealing with something

1134
00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:51,209
obviously reflective I think the fact

1135
00:42:57,439 --> 00:42:54,059
that whitley strieber x' book in 1987

1136
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:57,449
communion seemed to really jumpstart the

1137
00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:00,420
whole modern age of this particular

1138
00:43:06,999 --> 00:43:04,380
mystery and i'm not sure if all the

1139
00:43:09,769 --> 00:43:07,009
accounts that you know are claimed are

1140
00:43:12,259 --> 00:43:09,779
due to some sort of non-human

1141
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,269
intelligence or some extraterrestrial

1142
00:43:16,339 --> 00:43:14,400
intelligence interacting with us there's

1143
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:16,349
so much about it that's that's absurd

1144
00:43:22,579 --> 00:43:19,130
the level of technology the level of

1145
00:43:24,979 --> 00:43:22,589
medical experiments I mean some of them

1146
00:43:27,140 --> 00:43:24,989
don't even reflect the state of our

1147
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:27,150
technology now some of them seem

1148
00:43:35,179 --> 00:43:31,170
actually medieval so to me there's this

1149
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:35,189
is a real morass of possibly you know

1150
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:39,170
frontal lobe lobe epilepsy you know

1151
00:43:44,479 --> 00:43:42,089
sleep paralysis I mean there's all sorts

1152
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:44,489
of possible prosaic explanations that

1153
00:43:48,919 --> 00:43:47,249
can you can factor into this but at the

1154
00:43:51,579 --> 00:43:48,929
core of this I think there is truly

1155
00:43:54,859 --> 00:43:51,589
something going on and Carla and Leah

1156
00:43:57,140 --> 00:43:54,869
impressed me as two women very very

1157
00:43:59,900 --> 00:43:57,150
bright very you know astute very

1158
00:44:01,880 --> 00:43:59,910
observant who I think really had actual

1159
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:01,890
things going on and Carla really

1160
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:03,689
impressed me and it was I was very

1161
00:44:07,579 --> 00:44:06,839
saddened when we lost her it was

1162
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:07,589
heartbreaking

1163
00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:10,049
it was it was just sad because she knew

1164
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:11,640
she was dying and we all know she

1165
00:44:17,419 --> 00:44:14,400
thought it was it was just really really

1166
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:17,429
difficult and it infuriated you because

1167
00:44:19,999 --> 00:44:18,689
you didn't know you didn't know you know

1168
00:44:22,189 --> 00:44:20,009
and you saw that you were gonna lose

1169
00:44:24,669 --> 00:44:22,199
this sort of amazing person there's a

1170
00:44:27,919 --> 00:44:24,679
foreign leader was she'll for a while

1171
00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:27,929
yeah well she didn't show for a while

1172
00:44:31,849 --> 00:44:29,880
she you know you could see here

1173
00:44:35,329 --> 00:44:31,859
deteriorate and the thing is we knew she

1174
00:44:37,069 --> 00:44:35,339
was dying she knew she was dying and you

1175
00:44:39,499 --> 00:44:37,079
know it was just hard to sit back and

1176
00:44:40,969 --> 00:44:39,509
watch it as she drove herself and drove

1177
00:44:42,529 --> 00:44:40,979
herself she never stopped pushing

1178
00:44:44,809 --> 00:44:42,539
yourself she was driven to understand

1179
00:44:47,419 --> 00:44:44,819
this thing and driven to kind of like

1180
00:44:49,849 --> 00:44:47,429
like ring a fire Bell I think one of the

1181
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,859
things that she brought to the field if

1182
00:44:54,019 --> 00:44:51,119
you've seen her or her to speak she's

1183
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:54,029
very fiery and she's a very quick

1184
00:45:00,740 --> 00:44:57,660
thinker and she has no patience for

1185
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:00,750
polls at the same time you know she her

1186
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:02,490
mine was open to the unconventional

1187
00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:04,050
possibilities because there was no

1188
00:45:07,130 --> 00:45:05,550
conventional possibilities could

1189
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:07,140
possibly explain what she and her family

1190
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:10,140
were going through and into the fridge I

1191
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:11,970
think is a perfect title for the book

1192
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:14,040
because man this is some fringy stuff

1193
00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:16,380
and it's just an account just a personal

1194
00:45:20,570 --> 00:45:18,420
account and it was so harrowing and

1195
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:20,580
bizarre that you don't know quite what

1196
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:21,510
to make of it

1197
00:45:25,630 --> 00:45:23,130
so I wrote the best reviewer could and

1198
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:25,640
when I talked to her again her passion

1199
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:29,850
the immediacy of her experiences that

1200
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:32,880
was still going on at the time led me to

1201
00:45:37,730 --> 00:45:35,610
fly out there in conjunction with the

1202
00:45:39,860 --> 00:45:37,740
the the conference taking place that

1203
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:39,870
spring and I arrived at Little Rock

1204
00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:41,790
Airport at this time they had moved from

1205
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:44,430
North Texas to Little Rock because her

1206
00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:45,930
husband had a job offer there to work

1207
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:48,420
for a computer software firm he had

1208
00:45:51,650 --> 00:45:49,710
previously been in the Army Security

1209
00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:51,660
Agency the same thing I enlisted for

1210
00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:55,800
when I was drafted and he served in he

1211
00:46:00,440 --> 00:45:57,420
was very bright he served in computer

1212
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:00,450
software development in the military and

1213
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:02,070
he now is working for private companies

1214
00:46:08,050 --> 00:46:04,430
a very soft-spoken very quiet very

1215
00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:08,060
almost nerdish guy if you meet him a

1216
00:46:13,130 --> 00:46:10,260
very very nice man

1217
00:46:16,310 --> 00:46:13,140
very easy to be around and created a

1218
00:46:18,770 --> 00:46:16,320
nice sort of I think balance to Carla's

1219
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:18,780
intensity so she picking up the airport

1220
00:46:23,180 --> 00:46:21,630
and drove us back to her place and her

1221
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:23,190
place is not right outside of Little

1222
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:26,310
Rock in a wooded area and you just turn

1223
00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:28,890
off this little highway and there is a

1224
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:31,020
road down to their house which is about

1225
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,050
3 or 400 feet in and he just cut cut the

1226
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:36,240
trees away so it was this road then they

1227
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:37,890
cut the trees away for a clearing where

1228
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:39,810
they had built the house the front of

1229
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:41,370
the house is a ground level the back of

1230
00:46:47,090 --> 00:46:44,160
the house was with a drop-off of about

1231
00:46:48,770 --> 00:46:47,100
four or five feet to a backyard which

1232
00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:48,780
had been cleared so behind the house is

1233
00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:50,790
a big cleared area with grass and stuff

1234
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:52,860
but around it and behind it were all

1235
00:46:57,830 --> 00:46:55,530
tall trees and woods and a her backyard

1236
00:47:00,590 --> 00:46:57,840
slanted down several hundred yards into

1237
00:47:02,270 --> 00:47:00,600
a completely wooded draw and then the

1238
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:02,280
rose up on the other side in the

1239
00:47:06,110 --> 00:47:04,290
distance there was like a higher wooded

1240
00:47:07,310 --> 00:47:06,120
hillside the reason I'm describing this

1241
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:07,320
is what I'm going to tell you right now

1242
00:47:13,220 --> 00:47:10,110
sure right next to the house they built

1243
00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:13,230
for herself and her husband our son was

1244
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:14,190
now not living in

1245
00:47:19,790 --> 00:47:16,530
because he was college-age but you know

1246
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:19,800
he had a room there and they built a

1247
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:21,930
little mother-in-law house for Elton's

1248
00:47:26,750 --> 00:47:24,090
mom just about you know 40 feet away a

1249
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:26,760
much smaller house well you come down

1250
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:27,930
the driveway and to the left is a

1251
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:29,430
mother-in-law house to the right is the

1252
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:32,640
the main house and so we you know I got

1253
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:34,380
to meet the mother-in-law and she was

1254
00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:35,910
describing some of the weird things they

1255
00:47:39,830 --> 00:47:37,260
had encountered there and the

1256
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:39,840
mother-in-law had also seen him one of

1257
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,130
the things that we're seeing and this is

1258
00:47:45,470 --> 00:47:43,440
just so bizarre is coming out of this

1259
00:47:47,180 --> 00:47:45,480
draw just eyelid like seems like from

1260
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:47,190
behind that down there in the draw

1261
00:47:53,060 --> 00:47:50,250
sometimes these rectangular shape black

1262
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:53,070
box cars would move with little lights

1263
00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:55,170
the corners would move up out of there

1264
00:48:01,070 --> 00:47:57,900
and just go right over their heads you

1265
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:01,080
know and out of the property now when

1266
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:05,010
they move to Little Rock area how they

1267
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:06,780
found that property is another whole

1268
00:48:11,090 --> 00:48:09,690
bizarre story involving these beings

1269
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:11,100
that showed up at our house back in

1270
00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:13,770
Denton Texas that looked like the old

1271
00:48:19,340 --> 00:48:16,020
MIB stories he's like like the old

1272
00:48:20,540 --> 00:48:19,350
character with the you know these they

1273
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:20,550
look dead you know they're they're

1274
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:22,290
they're pale they're look old they're

1275
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:23,970
they're wrinkled they're the kind of

1276
00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:25,410
beat-up they're the clothes don't fit

1277
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:26,790
they don't seem to know appropriate

1278
00:48:32,180 --> 00:48:29,490
manners or anything else and these two

1279
00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:32,190
beings claimed that they had animated

1280
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,480
these bodies just to use them

1281
00:48:36,890 --> 00:48:35,520
temporarily to communicate messages to

1282
00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:36,900
them it's the kind of stuff she was

1283
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:38,910
going through and they advised her to

1284
00:48:43,370 --> 00:48:41,250
move from where she was and when the

1285
00:48:44,810 --> 00:48:43,380
offer came for the job they said okay

1286
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:44,820
everything's pointing that direction

1287
00:48:49,310 --> 00:48:46,890
let's go and somehow I don't get the

1288
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:49,320
details but this property was found with

1289
00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:51,900
the help of these two weird beings that

1290
00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:53,700
would showed up at Carla's once or twice

1291
00:48:58,670 --> 00:48:55,500
and how strange is that

1292
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:58,680
how fringy can you get that's pretty

1293
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,420
strange I you know Richard I have a

1294
00:49:05,540 --> 00:49:02,640
question from one of our forum posters

1295
00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:05,550
chicane who's been a member at forum dr.

1296
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:09,000
Peric ascom for about two years and he

1297
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:11,160
asks hope I'm not too late to ask this

1298
00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:12,810
but Carla's book was one of the first

1299
00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:15,540
I've read on UFOs and on the abduction

1300
00:49:20,810 --> 00:49:18,030
topic one of which made quite an

1301
00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:20,820
impression was masquerade of angels

1302
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:23,460
absolutely I enjoyed reading that book

1303
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:26,250
but actually I tend to see it more as a

1304
00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:27,670
novel than a real story

1305
00:49:32,849 --> 00:49:29,500
due to the incredible some may say

1306
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:32,859
insane material it contains so his

1307
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:36,250
question to you is do you know if this

1308
00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:38,230
is a real or a fictional story and if

1309
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:40,150
it's real do you know the real identity

1310
00:49:44,430 --> 00:49:42,160
of the main character of the story and

1311
00:49:46,049 --> 00:49:44,440
he puts in parentheses Ted Rice I

1312
00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:46,059
believe it's been a long time since he's

1313
00:49:51,299 --> 00:49:48,670
read the book so he doesn't recall if so

1314
00:49:54,299 --> 00:49:51,309
what is he or she doing now that I don't

1315
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:54,309
know because Carla Carla was determined

1316
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:56,650
to protect his identity but you know I

1317
00:49:59,309 --> 00:49:58,210
talked to extensively about that book

1318
00:50:01,140 --> 00:49:59,319
and by the way chicanery

1319
00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:01,150
I have that book right next me right now

1320
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,160
and I brought it for this conversation

1321
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:05,040
because I think that book has a lot to

1322
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:08,290
teach us to consider about all the

1323
00:50:11,819 --> 00:50:10,329
abduction phenomena and your

1324
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:11,829
interpretation of what's going on for

1325
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:14,770
you anyway if you've read the book if

1326
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:16,420
you read that book masquerade of angels

1327
00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:20,290
it's been a while I did but I did it's

1328
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:21,700
always struck me as one of my favorite

1329
00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:24,250
titles of a book about the UFO

1330
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:27,640
phenomenon yeah and I think the book

1331
00:50:34,170 --> 00:50:31,359
really turn people on their head much

1332
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:34,180
like ballet is saying our keel is saying

1333
00:50:41,490 --> 00:50:37,210
you know you you accepted all it face

1334
00:50:43,859 --> 00:50:41,500
face value the book at face value mean

1335
00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:43,869
how she rises novelistic book about

1336
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Ted's experiences based on our

1337
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:46,690
interviews and conversation with them

1338
00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:48,880
I have to the face value since then did

1339
00:50:52,109 --> 00:50:50,200
get a chance to interview the guy

1340
00:50:54,829 --> 00:50:52,119
himself and I'm relying on the fact that

1341
00:50:58,260 --> 00:50:54,839
I consider Carla a woman of integrity

1342
00:51:00,000 --> 00:50:58,270
who's not trying to had by trying to

1343
00:51:01,650 --> 00:51:00,010
reflect but of course it's being

1344
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:01,660
filtered through a human mind and her

1345
00:51:06,299 --> 00:51:04,210
mind as best she can so no there's no

1346
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:06,309
absolute we're determining that do I buy

1347
00:51:09,809 --> 00:51:08,530
it I I buy it in the same provisional

1348
00:51:11,549 --> 00:51:09,819
sense you buy anything that comes as a

1349
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:11,559
report to you I'll tell you what we've

1350
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:13,750
got so much more to talk about we're

1351
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:16,210
discussing this all with Richard Serra

1352
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:18,490
debt focusing on the life and times of

1353
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:21,790
dr. carla turner who died what 16 years

1354
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:25,210
ago abductee and abduction researcher a

1355
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lot more to come with gene and Kris

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of course you do the system is so simple

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and it works don't miss my 94 lifestyle

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1409
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1411
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that's Tuesday October 9th 6:30 p.m. at

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that's eight seven seven two seven nine

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welcome back to the para cast the gold

1417
00:54:11,530 --> 00:54:04,330
standard of paranormal radio and now

1418
00:54:12,850 --> 00:54:11,540
here's Jane Steinberg in case you missed

1419
00:54:15,310 --> 00:54:12,860
the first part of the show ladies and

1420
00:54:18,850 --> 00:54:15,320
gentlemen the reason that Chris whispers

1421
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:18,860
the stinger the para cast is because

1422
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,690
Richard Serra dead is the quiet

1423
00:54:23,980 --> 00:54:22,400
researcher let me ask you a quick

1424
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:23,990
question about dr. Turner

1425
00:54:30,420 --> 00:54:26,570
what was her take on what caused her

1426
00:54:32,740 --> 00:54:30,430
abductions was it folkloric or UFO et

1427
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:32,750
physically-based well that's why I give

1428
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:34,130
her a lot of credit because she never

1429
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,050
came down on one side of the other and

1430
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:38,000
and you know if you watch his speeches

1431
00:54:42,610 --> 00:54:40,310
she's very kind of a forthright about

1432
00:54:43,690 --> 00:54:42,620
that her opinion is trying to look at it

1433
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:43,700
like you or I have looked everything

1434
00:54:47,140 --> 00:54:45,290
else is like and a person like Carla

1435
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:47,150
Turner and she can only deal with what

1436
00:54:50,290 --> 00:54:47,510
she knows

1437
00:54:52,060 --> 00:54:50,300
I think her integrity is high I think

1438
00:54:54,310 --> 00:54:52,070
she never came down on one side or the

1439
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:54,320
other that this was the abduction

1440
00:54:59,620 --> 00:54:57,050
phenomena was what it appeared to be or

1441
00:55:01,240 --> 00:54:59,630
not well our opinion was you can't trust

1442
00:55:03,610 --> 00:55:01,250
anything you can't trust the hypnosis

1443
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:03,620
you can't trust anything you can trust

1444
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,810
hypnosis to an extent but there's layers

1445
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:08,000
and layers of deception here they're

1446
00:55:11,380 --> 00:55:09,530
like we don't have a bottom line answer

1447
00:55:13,450 --> 00:55:11,390
for this and this is what drove her and

1448
00:55:15,850 --> 00:55:13,460
she was very adamant about not letting

1449
00:55:17,230 --> 00:55:15,860
people just come to a conclusion and she

1450
00:55:19,690 --> 00:55:17,240
avoided coming to a conclusion about

1451
00:55:22,210 --> 00:55:19,700
herself at the same time she was highly

1452
00:55:24,010 --> 00:55:22,220
dependent on hypnotic regression for a

1453
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:24,020
lot of the information she developed but

1454
00:55:26,830 --> 00:55:25,310
the hypnotic regression is done in

1455
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,840
conjunction with certain experiences

1456
00:55:30,910 --> 00:55:28,640
that were having and marks appearing on

1457
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:30,920
their bodies which tended to leaner

1458
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:33,470
towards something's going on here that's

1459
00:55:40,090 --> 00:55:37,010
really physical and going on is it alien

1460
00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:40,100
is that military is it something else

1461
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:41,750
the same questions I had when I met her

1462
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,930
and from there at the time she died she

1463
00:55:48,430 --> 00:55:46,640
never came down one way or the other on

1464
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:48,440
earth except that there's something very

1465
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:50,690
manipulative going here it's probably

1466
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:52,930
much more profound and difficult and

1467
00:55:57,220 --> 00:55:55,130
that's where it got left I thinking when

1468
00:56:00,130 --> 00:55:57,230
she died now just getting into more of

1469
00:56:02,740 --> 00:56:00,140
this here her death liver cancer is

1470
00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:02,750
anyone fear rising that something in her

1471
00:56:07,180 --> 00:56:04,700
experiences especially if she underwent

1472
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:07,190
physical examinations by some force or

1473
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:09,890
other might have helped hasten this yeah

1474
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:11,810
there is that suspicion again it's just

1475
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:14,329
a suspicion you know because he for her

1476
00:56:17,770 --> 00:56:15,680
it kind of came up suddenly but then

1477
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:17,780
liver cancer can come out suddenly you

1478
00:56:20,530 --> 00:56:19,910
know these things happen we'll we'll

1479
00:56:26,099 --> 00:56:20,540
never know

1480
00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:26,109
and she's not the only one who's had a

1481
00:56:30,970 --> 00:56:28,790
strange and kind of sad death at an

1482
00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:30,980
early age but in this UFO field as you

1483
00:56:35,530 --> 00:56:33,710
know and if they also wonder Richard if

1484
00:56:37,810 --> 00:56:35,540
today she had a condition like that she

1485
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:37,820
was still with us whether a liver

1486
00:56:41,890 --> 00:56:40,010
transplant would have taken care of him

1487
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:41,900
obviously medical science is much more

1488
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:43,730
capable of dealing with these things

1489
00:56:48,430 --> 00:56:45,410
yeah timing is everything

1490
00:56:51,220 --> 00:56:48,440
it really is in my opinion I think Carla

1491
00:56:53,290 --> 00:56:51,230
having visit her house and what I saw

1492
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:53,300
there and what I saw in their yard what

1493
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,000
I saw in the experience in the house and

1494
00:56:59,920 --> 00:56:58,160
what I saw as far as her little Polaroid

1495
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,930
she's show me they would take pictures

1496
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:01,040
of marks in their bodies the morning

1497
00:57:03,339 --> 00:57:01,760
after they thought they had an

1498
00:57:05,950 --> 00:57:03,349
experience so they woke up with blood on

1499
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:05,960
pillows or our gravel and dirt and

1500
00:57:10,450 --> 00:57:08,450
leaves and twigs in the bed and you know

1501
00:57:12,430 --> 00:57:10,460
their clothes on inside out not knowing

1502
00:57:14,380 --> 00:57:12,440
any memory of what had what's going on

1503
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:14,390
you know that they were experiencing all

1504
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:17,510
these things now you know tended to like

1505
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:19,490
cut to the simplest scenario I was more

1506
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:20,690
inclined to think this was some kind of

1507
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:23,089
manipulation by a human agency or maybe

1508
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:25,130
even you know experiments being done a

1509
00:57:29,740 --> 00:57:27,680
lot of black ops you know so there was

1510
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,750
that be considered when you talk about

1511
00:57:33,339 --> 00:57:31,520
her experiences with a so-called man in

1512
00:57:33,940 --> 00:57:33,349
black that leads you in that direction

1513
00:57:36,790 --> 00:57:33,950
also

1514
00:57:38,770 --> 00:57:36,800
now I maybe didn't understand the answer

1515
00:57:40,780 --> 00:57:38,780
here okay she was told by the MIB she

1516
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:40,790
had a move and she moved to this rural

1517
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:44,480
Arkansas home is that the location they

1518
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:47,030
pointed her to as I recall and I would

1519
00:57:50,770 --> 00:57:48,230
have to check on this but in my

1520
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:50,780
recollection is that yeah they kind of

1521
00:57:54,490 --> 00:57:52,970
guided her to this property why listen

1522
00:57:57,010 --> 00:57:54,500
to them that I always wonder about that

1523
00:57:59,530 --> 00:57:57,020
I know some kind of being that says do

1524
00:58:01,390 --> 00:57:59,540
this do that do the other thing and one

1525
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:01,400
of the things we like to talk about and

1526
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:03,650
the UFO field is the possibility of

1527
00:58:08,050 --> 00:58:06,290
deception when strange beings higher

1528
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:08,060
beings would ever tell you to do

1529
00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:11,599
something why not just say hey forget it

1530
00:58:16,359 --> 00:58:13,300
go away

1531
00:58:18,670 --> 00:58:16,369
opposite yeah I think for her it wasn't

1532
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:18,680
I mean it's bizarre enough to have

1533
00:58:23,890 --> 00:58:20,690
to beings like that walk into your house

1534
00:58:25,390 --> 00:58:23,900
right I mean it's got to be so the

1535
00:58:26,890 --> 00:58:25,400
cognitive dissonance that you're

1536
00:58:28,450 --> 00:58:26,900
experiencing in the moment must be

1537
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:28,460
unbelievable if you can just put

1538
00:58:31,930 --> 00:58:30,110
yourself there but it wasn't just the

1539
00:58:33,790 --> 00:58:31,940
appearance of these two guys it was

1540
00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:33,800
falling in place with a lot of other

1541
00:58:38,530 --> 00:58:35,870
things and then the job offer come with

1542
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:38,540
out of the blue right so it's like

1543
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:39,770
behind the scenes there were a lot of

1544
00:58:43,540 --> 00:58:41,570
factors working and she said that just

1545
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:43,550
seemed to feel like maybe if we leave

1546
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:45,710
Denton will escape this crap you know

1547
00:58:49,090 --> 00:58:47,210
the thing you mentioned here the job

1548
00:58:52,540 --> 00:58:49,100
offer that sounds like something that

1549
00:58:55,090 --> 00:58:52,550
could be manipulated by a government

1550
00:58:57,370 --> 00:58:55,100
agency but water yeah I know that's what

1551
00:58:59,770 --> 00:58:57,380
there's only questions you know there

1552
00:59:02,560 --> 00:58:59,780
there really I don't have any answers I

1553
00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:02,570
just try to stick with what I found out

1554
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:05,900
and I don't answer going more in detail

1555
00:59:11,140 --> 00:59:09,410
with these abduction scenarios so once

1556
00:59:14,130 --> 00:59:11,150
again we're talking about what more

1557
00:59:16,210 --> 00:59:14,140
reptilian kind of creatures well know

1558
00:59:18,220 --> 00:59:16,220
what kind of creatures let's be more

1559
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:18,230
specific about the creatures and the

1560
00:59:22,690 --> 00:59:20,000
interactions in terms of communication

1561
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:22,700
all right but for Carla's apparently you

1562
00:59:26,290 --> 00:59:24,170
know you have to separate that

1563
00:59:28,060 --> 00:59:26,300
experience from later she got involved

1564
00:59:30,430 --> 00:59:28,070
with many people came to her we have any

1565
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:30,440
abduction experiences and and we'll get

1566
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:32,090
into Barbara both Alec I think we should

1567
00:59:36,820 --> 00:59:33,650
a little while later because Barbara

1568
00:59:38,980 --> 00:59:36,830
both Alec was the hypnotist that Carla

1569
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:38,990
depended on and Leah Haley dependent on

1570
00:59:43,660 --> 00:59:41,090
and they would drive you know across

1571
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:43,670
States to go to Barbara or barb would

1572
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:46,010
come to them what was her background was

1573
00:59:51,850 --> 00:59:48,770
she just a hypnotist or a psychologist

1574
00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:51,860
was background Barbara was you know I'm

1575
00:59:57,130 --> 00:59:53,990
in mid sixties Barbara was older than me

1576
01:00:00,220 --> 00:59:57,140
as a young young woman I think she had

1577
01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:00,230
been an actress then she married kind of

1578
01:00:03,970 --> 01:00:02,000
gave up acting and moved to the Midwest

1579
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:03,980
but she too had had you know she was a

1580
01:00:08,290 --> 01:00:06,170
person with many psychic and

1581
01:00:10,750 --> 01:00:08,300
quote/unquote paranormal experiences in

1582
01:00:12,130 --> 01:00:10,760
her background and that let her in

1583
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,140
herself into her own investigation

1584
01:00:16,750 --> 01:00:14,240
eventually to hypnosis and Barbara birth

1585
01:00:18,910 --> 01:00:16,760
Alec I I knew her and I got the new her

1586
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:18,920
through and I met her both back at the

1587
01:00:23,110 --> 01:00:21,170
conferences and I met her once or twice

1588
01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:23,120
twice when she visited LA we stayed in

1589
01:00:26,830 --> 01:00:24,350
touch and when she was coming to town I

1590
01:00:27,850 --> 01:00:26,840
I just met with her shortly went where

1591
01:00:30,070 --> 01:00:27,860
she was staying and sat in the

1592
01:00:32,650 --> 01:00:30,080
background backyard on a picnic table

1593
01:00:35,020 --> 01:00:32,660
and talked to her and you could see

1594
01:00:36,850 --> 01:00:35,030
Barbara was very weighted by these

1595
01:00:38,380 --> 01:00:36,860
things because you know when she do

1596
01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:38,390
these hypnotic regressions on people

1597
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:39,980
some of the things that came through

1598
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:42,770
were absolutely horrendous I mean just

1599
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:46,490
horrendous you know there are criticisms

1600
01:00:51,850 --> 01:00:49,250
made of such things as hypnotic

1601
01:00:54,430 --> 01:00:51,860
regression one example is Kevin Randle I

1602
01:00:56,410 --> 01:00:54,440
mean he was co-author of a whole book

1603
01:00:58,540 --> 01:00:56,420
about abductions where they really

1604
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:58,550
attacked regressions as a very

1605
01:01:04,810 --> 01:01:01,760
inaccurate way to recover suppressed or

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01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:04,820
lost memories right I agree I agree so

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that kind of puts the whole thing in a

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01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:08,060
gray area you know and that's where we

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01:01:12,730 --> 01:01:10,970
are and also it depends on your bend you

1610
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:12,740
know and you try to fit this information

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01:01:15,550 --> 01:01:14,330
into your world view you have Elton

1612
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:15,560
Chong you know where does it fit into

1613
01:01:18,700 --> 01:01:16,370
your worldview

1614
01:01:21,340 --> 01:01:18,710
how do you fit it in there you know and

1615
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:21,350
I think that's a lot of we see we try to

1616
01:01:26,380 --> 01:01:24,050
find a place to you know slip this into

1617
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:26,390
our worldview and it changes your

1618
01:01:29,650 --> 01:01:28,310
worldview quite a bit and it goes is

1619
01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:29,660
that part of the problem with UFO

1620
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:32,150
abductions we're trying to fit in into

1621
01:01:37,690 --> 01:01:35,810
our worldview of today so we obviously

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01:01:39,970 --> 01:01:37,700
have good reason to believe there are

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01:01:41,590 --> 01:01:39,980
aliens in the universe possibly

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01:01:44,020 --> 01:01:41,600
intelligent races who will be visiting

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01:01:46,030 --> 01:01:44,030
us certainly the more we learn about our

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01:01:47,890 --> 01:01:46,040
universe the more this is validated with

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01:01:50,170 --> 01:01:47,900
earth-like planets and we can think that

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01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:50,180
maybe there was life intelligent life

1629
01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:52,400
could have existed on Mars long ago on

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01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:54,470
the Dead sea-bottoms of Barsoom or

1631
01:01:59,050 --> 01:01:57,170
there's so much and so forth with this

1632
01:02:01,300 --> 01:01:59,060
kind of society when we're visited by

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01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:01,310
anything or anyone

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01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:04,160
whether it's manipulated or not we're

1635
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:05,810
going to believe it's et because that's

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01:02:11,550 --> 01:02:08,240
the way we're hardwired well yeah we you

1637
01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:11,560
see like it's a coral you know visiting

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01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:16,310
you know in Central America and it comes

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and a bearded white man comes out of the

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sky lands teaches them stays with them a

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01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:25,760
period of time and then leaves and says

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01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:27,950
he shall return and of course the next

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01:02:30,910 --> 01:02:29,210
people to return there were white and

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01:02:32,290 --> 01:02:30,920
bearded was Columbus and the boys and

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01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:32,300
they thought this was kid circle

1646
01:02:37,150 --> 01:02:35,390
returning but he left by air and many of

1647
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:37,160
these things lead by air and so you go

1648
01:02:41,290 --> 01:02:39,050
okay so they're coming from space well

1649
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:41,300
they could just be coming from you know

1650
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:43,310
a few hundred miles away you know I'm

1651
01:02:46,330 --> 01:02:44,570
saying it's like when you go to the

1652
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airport you see a plane land you

1653
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oh well that's not necessarily from

1654
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Jupiter it's from New York so the reason

1655
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I bring this up is I keep getting

1656
01:02:57,070 --> 01:02:55,640
wondering how much of what we're seeing

1657
01:02:59,530 --> 01:02:57,080
is the remnants of an even older

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civilization that is still around and is

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somehow laying low in the background

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through this long epoch of time and

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doing certain things with an agenda that

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we haven't arrived at yet of course that

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takes us to the legends of the DeRose

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and heroes from Richard shaver the

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series of crypto terrestrials from the

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late Mac Tony's so much more to talk

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about with Richard Serra debt the quiet

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researcher and we have with gene and

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Chris the quiet see Chris didn't pick up

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on that I was waiting for we have gene

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forum dr. Peric ask.com being shift by

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Chris O'Brien he does that all the time

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by the way in our personal interactions

1769
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he's always been that way

1770
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I'm suppressive as a Scientologist would

1771
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:23,109
say he's a suppressive personality

1772
01:08:28,770 --> 01:08:25,720
oh darling get involved in that now

1773
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before Chris joined us as co-host in the

1774
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:30,609
previous incarnation of the power cast

1775
01:08:35,070 --> 01:08:32,530
we had someone on here who claimed to be

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in touch with the alleged nurse who had

1777
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all this inside information about the

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Roswell case which he threw away after

1779
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he published a manuscript he turned out

1780
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:43,480
to be a Scientologist but never went

1781
01:08:50,340 --> 01:08:48,880
after us so there you go oh well I'm

1782
01:08:51,870 --> 01:08:50,350
waiting for Tom Cruise on the phone

1783
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:51,880
right now I have a little red phone here

1784
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when Tom Cruise is offended he will call

1785
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me hey I just saw a headline in one of

1786
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the tabloids as I was checking out of my

1787
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:04,420
supermarket that Tom Cruise is gonna

1788
01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:06,880
take a big step back from Scientology of

1789
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:08,440
course you never know if these things

1790
01:09:13,770 --> 01:09:11,650
are true but well you see how much of

1791
01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:13,780
that step-back Scientology permission

1792
01:09:17,250 --> 01:09:15,549
isn't it's something there that you

1793
01:09:18,930 --> 01:09:17,260
either have to get out completely or

1794
01:09:20,220 --> 01:09:18,940
they're going to go after you forever or

1795
01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:20,230
it doesn't matter I don't know that much

1796
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:22,870
about Scientology and that's not part of

1797
01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:24,730
our discussion we're talking about the

1798
01:09:28,890 --> 01:09:27,040
alleged higher beings that dr. Turner

1799
01:09:30,780 --> 01:09:28,900
encountered about the people she dealt

1800
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:30,790
with but we're talking here about this

1801
01:09:36,539 --> 01:09:33,850
woman who did the hypnotic therapies or

1802
01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:36,549
sessions and as you tell me the way I

1803
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:39,280
understand it she was a hypnotist she

1804
01:09:43,380 --> 01:09:41,530
was not somebody trained in psychology

1805
01:09:46,230 --> 01:09:43,390
or psychiatry or a social worker or

1806
01:09:48,539 --> 01:09:46,240
something oh right so she came without

1807
01:09:51,809 --> 01:09:48,549
that background you know again as a

1808
01:09:53,789 --> 01:09:51,819
self-created Explorer you know like I

1809
01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:53,799
said she's a dear woman I really really

1810
01:09:58,740 --> 01:09:56,320
really admired her and and and this

1811
01:10:00,300 --> 01:09:58,750
stuff weighed heavily upon her now if

1812
01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:00,310
you take that as her belt and showing

1813
01:10:03,330 --> 01:10:01,840
that the things that we're coming out of

1814
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:03,340
these regressions things she was hearing

1815
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:04,930
and seeing and when you're there and

1816
01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:06,250
I've been to through several

1817
01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:09,070
observations of regressions and when you

1818
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:11,320
see somebody relive it sometimes it is

1819
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:11,890
just start

1820
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:13,870
how real is and yet other times and I'm

1821
01:10:18,150 --> 01:10:16,090
thinking of two cases in particular that

1822
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:18,160
we observed it well even though the

1823
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:19,510
person was going through all this sort

1824
01:10:24,930 --> 01:10:22,210
of emotional angst I had a sense of

1825
01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:24,940
confabulation and of acting that maybe

1826
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:27,490
even the person was not even totally

1827
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:30,130
aware of so but being an actor and you

1828
01:10:34,350 --> 01:10:32,530
know spending years many many years

1829
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:34,360
spent many evenings sitting in a

1830
01:10:38,220 --> 01:10:35,830
professional acting class you know

1831
01:10:40,230 --> 01:10:38,230
watching actors go up and do scenes then

1832
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:40,240
hearing the critiques and you get to be

1833
01:10:45,450 --> 01:10:43,510
a really acute observer you know people

1834
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:45,460
because that's part of the craft of

1835
01:10:48,780 --> 01:10:46,810
learning your craft as an actor just

1836
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:48,790
with that ear that with that background

1837
01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:51,370
and sometimes you'd hear that false note

1838
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:54,580
and go mm-hmm something else is going on

1839
01:10:59,550 --> 01:10:57,610
here yeah you know so I agree totally

1840
01:10:59,940 --> 01:10:59,560
and you know having been out in the

1841
01:11:02,250 --> 01:10:59,950
field

1842
01:11:04,350 --> 01:11:02,260
off and on for many years interviewing

1843
01:11:07,260 --> 01:11:04,360
hundreds hundreds and hundreds of people

1844
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:07,270
because then sense of when somebody has

1845
01:11:12,450 --> 01:11:10,690
lost the reality of the situation and is

1846
01:11:14,490 --> 01:11:12,460
starting to embellish and confabulate

1847
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:14,500
yeah and it's almost seamless but you

1848
01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:16,090
can sure notice that if you're paying

1849
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:18,310
attention but doesn't that also if we

1850
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:21,280
have the imperfect nature of the

1851
01:11:25,470 --> 01:11:23,650
regression process that puts a cloud on

1852
01:11:28,530 --> 01:11:25,480
some of the results that you got right

1853
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:28,540
absolutely you know it just leaves more

1854
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:30,880
questions and answers one of the things

1855
01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:33,070
I think that Carla felt and probably

1856
01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:35,920
influenced by Barbara Barr colics being

1857
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:37,720
the hypnotist and the stories that came

1858
01:11:41,790 --> 01:11:40,090
out of the people that even Carla

1859
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:41,800
directed to Barbara and was you know

1860
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:43,360
there for the sessions and the

1861
01:11:48,300 --> 01:11:45,850
conversations afterwards even in the

1862
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:48,310
case of Ted rice this is very subtle and

1863
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:50,530
complicated stuff I do believe that this

1864
01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:52,930
is an interactive conscious phenomena

1865
01:11:57,540 --> 01:11:54,790
and that as soon as you entered as an

1866
01:11:59,640 --> 01:11:57,550
investigator you are no longer outside

1867
01:12:01,890 --> 01:11:59,650
the glass looking in on your experiment

1868
01:12:03,810 --> 01:12:01,900
that somehow the glass is dissolved and

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you are being manipulated as much as

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they are in this whole context it

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becomes very very iffy you know what I

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mean so the investigator becomes part of

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what's being investigated yeah alright

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I'm separating yourself from the

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activities that are going on around you

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and you lose your objectivity as an

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investigator because now that's playing

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with you you know it's funny here John

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keel used to talk about such

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where you get a phone call maybe from a

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phone booth and pick it up and it's for

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him and that goes back to all the stuff

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you see in movies like Bruce Willis

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would get that in a die-hard film and

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then there's this TV show called person

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of interest

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produced by Jonathan Noland who's the

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brother of Christopher Nolan and worked

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in writing the Batman series of Dark

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Knight series and there's a situation in

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a current episode where he picks up the

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phone the computer is talking to him

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yeah and he's looking up at the camera

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talking back to the computer making it

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cutting a deal with it right got a cut

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deal with the computer so you're gonna

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help me find my partner yeah that's a

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interesting show it's a good good base

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for good paranoia

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you know yes you kind of wonder here

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where whatever force is involved is

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making the person who was investigating

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this an unwilling participant but that

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goes back to the government

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disinformation thing because we see the

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government certainly has control of the

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phones they're obviously have ways to

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tap someone's conversation so doesn't

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that lead you to think more and more

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that some of the stuff that Carla Turner

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and her friends were undergoing had some

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kind of government intervention factor I

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did you know it's funny they were a

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little bit and so was John Matarese

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:40,420
listen to that I remember going up to

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John Mac at this at that conference in

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Eureka Springs at eff there we spent the

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night the first night I planted Carlos

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out the next day Saturday morning we

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drove up to Eureka Springs and spent the

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day in the e tonight at the conference

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the next morning at the conference then

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we drove back I spent some night at her

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house both nights in her house were

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01:14:04,740 --> 01:14:02,470
extremely strange for me because there

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was definitely some something going on

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there and if you want me dressed up

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right now we'll that's going off the

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track you want to stay with Barbara

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Pollock and her belt and charm what I'm

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trying to produce at this there is as

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soon as you can investigate this stuff

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:18,520
then the line gets very blurry because

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things begin to happen because you're

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there you know it's very very Cris maybe

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you've experienced some of this with

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your investigation you know that

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suddenly you're you're not the objective

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01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:33,550
observer 34 well I believe me that's

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01:14:38,940 --> 01:14:35,710
like one of the things that I would like

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01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:38,950
you know self flagellate myself to be as

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01:14:42,740 --> 01:14:39,510
of Jeff

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01:14:44,899 --> 01:14:42,750
give in and totally grounded and

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01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:44,909
impartial as possible but yeah you're

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right I mean there are you know there

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were a few times when someone that I

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knew and respected and really really had

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a deep connection with and understood

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their level of objectivity they would

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tell me something so fantastic that I

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would almost be forced to buy into it so

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you know it is it is a it's not a very

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well demarcated line between between

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belief and disbelief sometimes it is a

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01:15:17,060 --> 01:15:15,630
you know there is a gray area there so

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01:15:19,310 --> 01:15:17,070
yeah that's that's a really good point

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with you I think you know I've learned

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01:15:24,589 --> 01:15:21,809
and constantly refining is and

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discovering is how much you know the

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question we ask determine the answer we

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get and you know it's an evolution and

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sort of like what is the basic basis

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Nexus that has formed me you your

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personality your traits the way you look

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at the world your life experiences

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whatever it is you know the thing that

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forms you and when you when you get into

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01:15:47,959 --> 01:15:46,110
this feeling stuff that look for answers

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you have to look at your own worldview

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01:15:52,879 --> 01:15:49,980
and challenge that too and it's sort of

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like a constant process of like peeling

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an onion you you kind of shuttle layer

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if your belief system you notice

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interfering with your you know your

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01:16:02,990 --> 01:16:01,469
conclusions and so you try to allow for

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that they discover there's another

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01:16:06,649 --> 01:16:04,860
belief system that you have that it's

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also coloring what you're willing to

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look at how you want to look at it I

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don't know how to accept that escape

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that except you know like you said this

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self-flagellation you know you just got

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like you're trying to beat yourself this

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object in a situation that's very hard

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to do because you're dealing with your

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own worldview your questions are coming

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from your own worldview Richard Serra

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dad is joining us with Dean and Chris

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again we have Richard Serra Det who's

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the not so quiet researcher on the power

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cast with Jean and Chris and we're

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looking at all these crazy events the

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possibility of deliberate manipulation

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how someone who researches the

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phenomenon suddenly becomes caught up in

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it and I wonder there is that also

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possibly self-generated because John

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keel said to run is an invitation to be

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chased when I was working and then

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trying to get behind well what the old

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compo mike younger was that the scenario

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was about and I became very close to my

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younger and spent many many many many

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days and hours and experiences with them

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you know you again you're trying to get

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to the like whatever mike younger was he

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wasn't quite what he was in him self to

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be at first but he was still definitely

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had some kind of something behind him

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guiding him and beating him information

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that I don't think anybody who's

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spending time with them with us Gregg or

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anybody else you couldn't help even Don

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Ecker has arrived that place back then

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you know he was warning me so I'm

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telling you rich you better be careful

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you know these guys are disinformation

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you're gonna get sucked in they're gonna

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get booked in and I said Don that's what

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I expect you know I said no I don't I

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don't want to tarnish the magazine but I

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was like with this stuff rising up right

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now this whole abduction phenomena and

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they got this guy talking like he's an

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ex-navy CEO and he can tell us all this

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kind of stuff but well listen to kind of

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stuff I missed it and I want to see if

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we can get the understanding of why

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01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:32,860
they're playing these game what's the

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:34,510
payoff of them what what's this about

2140
01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:37,210
you know and that was a long slow

2141
01:22:40,410 --> 01:22:39,040
process once again the forming

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01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:40,420
relationships and trying to get to know

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01:22:43,140 --> 01:22:41,830
somebody well enough of where you can

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01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:43,150
tell when they're fabricating when

2145
01:22:48,780 --> 01:22:44,890
they're not better etcetera etcetera

2146
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:48,790
I watched my younger is a mental and

2147
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:51,490
emotional stability over the period of

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01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:54,010
years I knew him actually just dissolved

2149
01:23:03,030 --> 01:22:58,000
into into extreme desperation and misery

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01:23:05,550 --> 01:23:03,040
and eventually you know he he dies for

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01:23:09,810 --> 01:23:05,560
heart attack

2152
01:23:11,550 --> 01:23:09,820
100 feet from the bus stop down in South

2153
01:23:13,410 --> 01:23:11,560
Orange County they find his body

2154
01:23:14,850 --> 01:23:13,420
elective walking along the railroad

2155
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:14,860
backed like he'd given up waiting for

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01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:16,930
the bus or something and they found him

2157
01:23:21,390 --> 01:23:19,600
dead there and I have to admit I feel

2158
01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:21,400
very bad about the fact that I did not

2159
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:27,000
attend this you know I was just - I

2160
01:23:30,780 --> 01:23:29,110
guess there was all this too complicated

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01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:30,790
me other comment and then extremely

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01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:32,170
disturbing

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01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:34,690
they watched it go on and watched my

2164
01:23:40,710 --> 01:23:38,440
attempt to suicide before that that we

2165
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:40,720
want more ensure 100 them feel suicide

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01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:42,910
attempt where they were just craving you

2167
01:23:47,220 --> 01:23:44,170
know craving some kind of help and

2168
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:47,230
attention I think he had I think you

2169
01:23:52,260 --> 01:23:49,210
know he was a very artistic guy if you

2170
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:52,270
see his artwork incredibly artistic very

2171
01:23:58,110 --> 01:23:54,250
very deep insensitive man in a lot of

2172
01:24:00,660 --> 01:23:58,120
way had a very troubled childhood with

2173
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:00,670
you know actually fits the profile of

2174
01:24:06,090 --> 01:24:03,280
the kind of person you'd recruit to do

2175
01:24:08,190 --> 01:24:06,100
something and I he may have been

2176
01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:08,200
recruited at some point by some entity

2177
01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:10,750
and there's been hints and I've had some

2178
01:24:15,330 --> 01:24:12,820
very strong interest and people like I

2179
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:15,340
said a very reliable that the Khan 12

2180
01:24:22,290 --> 01:24:19,600
operation was an operation and had this

2181
01:24:24,060 --> 01:24:22,300
purpose I'm still not there on it was

2182
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:24,070
first of all about getting certain

2183
01:24:26,820 --> 01:24:25,510
information out because I think there's

2184
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:26,830
the big division in this government

2185
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:29,710
between the viewpoint that certain

2186
01:24:36,570 --> 01:24:31,570
elements take on this UFO phenomena

2187
01:24:39,060 --> 01:24:36,580
meaning the CIA and in its venues as

2188
01:24:40,710 --> 01:24:39,070
opposed the oh and I off the Naval

2189
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:40,720
Intelligence interview they take and

2190
01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:43,690
I've had this reinforced to me by three

2191
01:24:49,710 --> 01:24:46,150
different sources over a long period of

2192
01:24:50,850 --> 01:24:49,720
time that and I can I came and talked

2193
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:50,860
about the sources so you can take it

2194
01:24:55,050 --> 01:24:52,000
leave what it's worth I'm not going to

2195
01:24:57,540 --> 01:24:55,060
talk about this book but well well stop

2196
01:25:00,090 --> 01:24:57,550
for one second why not because they

2197
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:00,100
never lose them I'm sorry I was like and

2198
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:01,570
I thought that I give them a hundred

2199
01:25:04,260 --> 01:25:03,040
percent credibility I don't because

2200
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:04,270
you're dealing with people whose job it

2201
01:25:08,430 --> 01:25:05,920
is to accomplish certain tasks and who

2202
01:25:10,410 --> 01:25:08,440
take on anything it comes and deflected

2203
01:25:12,540 --> 01:25:10,420
or a shape it or whatever you take that

2204
01:25:14,250 --> 01:25:12,550
as a given but you know you know the

2205
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:14,260
acquired researcher people don't talk to

2206
01:25:18,900 --> 01:25:16,210
you if they and tell you anything useful

2207
01:25:19,390 --> 01:25:18,910
if they know you out there like just a

2208
01:25:21,370 --> 01:25:19,400
I'm

2209
01:25:23,649 --> 01:25:21,380
repeat it right away you know also you

2210
01:25:25,149 --> 01:25:23,659
become a useful idiom because then

2211
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:25,159
you're just kind of farming out the crap

2212
01:25:28,810 --> 01:25:27,440
you know that they're putting out so

2213
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:28,820
yeah where do we see a lot of that

2214
01:25:35,169 --> 01:25:32,210
Richard yeah man but this is this big

2215
01:25:36,490 --> 01:25:35,179
bag of gray pile you know and lobby just

2216
01:25:38,919 --> 01:25:36,500
sits there and this wait for something

2217
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:38,929
to ping that might come along to go I'm

2218
01:25:41,950 --> 01:25:40,610
never here but then you go look at it if

2219
01:25:43,870 --> 01:25:41,960
there's anything else you can tie to it

2220
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:43,880
you get a clearer picture the whole

2221
01:25:49,689 --> 01:25:45,650
government involvement in this subject

2222
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:49,699
uh you know in UFOs and abductions and

2223
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,770
all the Intendant phenomenon that are

2224
01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:53,600
automatically knee-jerk connected to

2225
01:25:57,970 --> 01:25:56,000
UFOs is I mean that's that's a huge

2226
01:26:01,120 --> 01:25:57,980
subject right there but but how about

2227
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:01,130
this little added element that not many

2228
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:03,170
people are willing to deal with and this

2229
01:26:08,140 --> 01:26:04,850
is a question from nameless who's been

2230
01:26:10,660 --> 01:26:08,150
on on our podcast forum dr. Peric ascom

2231
01:26:13,870 --> 01:26:10,670
for about a year and he wants to know if

2232
01:26:17,290 --> 01:26:13,880
you've read Nick Redferns book final

2233
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:17,300
events and he supplies a quote from the

2234
01:26:23,410 --> 01:26:20,960
website touting the book and it's for

2235
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:23,420
decades stories of alien abductions UFO

2236
01:26:27,939 --> 01:26:25,610
encounters flying saucer sightings and

2237
01:26:29,919 --> 01:26:27,949
area 51 have led millions of people to

2238
01:26:32,530 --> 01:26:29,929
believe that extraterrestrials are

2239
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:32,540
secretly among us but what if these

2240
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:35,330
millions of people are all wrong what if

2241
01:26:40,180 --> 01:26:37,370
the UFO phenomenon has much darker and

2242
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:40,190
far more ominous origins for four years

2243
01:26:43,810 --> 01:26:42,170
UFO Authority Nick Redfern has been

2244
01:26:46,450 --> 01:26:43,820
investigating the strange and terrifying

2245
01:26:49,530 --> 01:26:46,460
world of a secret group within the US

2246
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:49,540
government known as the Collins elite

2247
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:52,010
the ground leaves that are purported

2248
01:26:56,169 --> 01:26:54,650
alien visitors are in reality deceptive

2249
01:26:58,899 --> 01:26:56,179
demons and fallen angels

2250
01:27:01,570 --> 01:26:58,909
there are minions of Satan who are

2251
01:27:03,490 --> 01:27:01,580
reaping and enslaving our very Souls and

2252
01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:03,500
paving the way for Armageddon and

2253
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:07,190
Judgment Day the question is does anyone

2254
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:09,110
know what the deal is with the US

2255
01:27:14,919 --> 01:27:11,840
alphabet agencies interested in the

2256
01:27:16,780 --> 01:27:14,929
occult which totally puts a whole new

2257
01:27:19,660 --> 01:27:16,790
ball of wax into the big ball of wax

2258
01:27:21,399 --> 01:27:19,670
yeah well they show things I can add to

2259
01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:21,409
that first of all talking about Nick

2260
01:27:25,570 --> 01:27:23,000
Brett Brett Burns coverage of the

2261
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:25,580
Collins relief I went sniffing around

2262
01:27:32,140 --> 01:27:29,360
about that too after reading it and you

2263
01:27:33,310 --> 01:27:32,150
know what I've said before is this

2264
01:27:36,430 --> 01:27:33,320
reinforced is that

2265
01:27:39,370 --> 01:27:36,440
there is a real split a real conflict

2266
01:27:41,170 --> 01:27:39,380
and I mean it is real within the

2267
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:41,180
government on this issue on the

2268
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:43,010
interpret definite you and I'll show you

2269
01:27:45,940 --> 01:27:44,000
some evidence for that

2270
01:27:48,730 --> 01:27:45,950
going back to Mike younger they you know

2271
01:27:51,460 --> 01:27:48,740
Mike younger used to sneer at the CIA

2272
01:27:54,030 --> 01:27:51,470
and and they used to have a nickname for

2273
01:27:56,890 --> 01:27:54,040
them and a derogatory nickname

2274
01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:56,900
Christians in action know what they say

2275
01:28:01,060 --> 01:27:59,120
sarcastically then and what I've learned

2276
01:28:04,180 --> 01:28:01,070
from other sources in standard that

2277
01:28:07,390 --> 01:28:04,190
their view of the Collins elite they

2278
01:28:10,150 --> 01:28:07,400
think is full of crap oh and I does but

2279
01:28:12,370 --> 01:28:10,160
the CIA has embraced it and they've

2280
01:28:13,900 --> 01:28:12,380
actually you know that their conclusions

2281
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:13,910
that constantly at the end of the book

2282
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:16,130
if you read it there was some people

2283
01:28:23,470 --> 01:28:19,490
really pushing for a forcible conversion

2284
01:28:25,630 --> 01:28:23,480
of American to Christianity and as a

2285
01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:25,640
kind of a precursor to the the final

2286
01:28:32,770 --> 01:28:27,980
event that he named the book and I think

2287
01:28:34,330 --> 01:28:32,780
eschatology is a big big big like

2288
01:28:36,940 --> 01:28:34,340
elephant sitting in the middle of room

2289
01:28:40,540 --> 01:28:36,950
inside the intelligence agency the CIA

2290
01:28:41,620 --> 01:28:40,550
got involved in this occult areas way

2291
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:41,630
back when

2292
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:43,370
as you know from flu as you've seen from

2293
01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:46,010
from the books on remote viewing when

2294
01:28:50,350 --> 01:28:48,500
you start giving a nice fancy clinical

2295
01:28:53,770 --> 01:28:50,360
name like from Milton Ewing and you know

2296
01:28:55,510 --> 01:28:53,780
they developed the protocols and the one

2297
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:55,520
English wanna but the other guy who

2298
01:28:58,810 --> 01:28:57,170
helped develop these protocols Ingo

2299
01:28:59,500 --> 01:28:58,820
Swann did caught up on the protocols for

2300
01:29:00,970 --> 01:28:59,510
remote viewing

2301
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:00,980
you're still trying to concretize

2302
01:29:05,470 --> 01:29:02,960
something which has been experienced by

2303
01:29:07,060 --> 01:29:05,480
people you know for millions of years I

2304
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:07,070
mean you know even you a street corner

2305
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:09,010
site you know just a different way of

2306
01:29:14,890 --> 01:29:13,610
terminology to use this when you enter

2307
01:29:16,060 --> 01:29:14,900
into the dark and you're feeling around

2308
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:16,070
trying to figure out what's in there

2309
01:29:18,580 --> 01:29:17,600
depending on where you're standing and

2310
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:18,590
what you're feeling and come to a

2311
01:29:22,330 --> 01:29:20,480
different conclusion and I think that's

2312
01:29:24,700 --> 01:29:22,340
when we reach into the into this realm

2313
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:24,710
this very soft realm of mental

2314
01:29:28,930 --> 01:29:26,570
communication you're dealing a lot with

2315
01:29:30,910 --> 01:29:28,940
the with the archetypes available in

2316
01:29:32,980 --> 01:29:30,920
your own vocabulary of your mind the

2317
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:32,990
images in your mind that thought your

2318
01:29:36,910 --> 01:29:35,120
basic belief system and whatever

2319
01:29:39,390 --> 01:29:36,920
information is coming through is going

2320
01:29:41,710 --> 01:29:39,400
to take those pieces to assemble

2321
01:29:44,350 --> 01:29:41,720
something to present to you that's kind

2322
01:29:45,220 --> 01:29:44,360
of the way I view it so anytime your

2323
01:29:46,690 --> 01:29:45,230
quote-unquote

2324
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:46,700
getting information for an outside

2325
01:29:49,060 --> 01:29:47,330
source

2326
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:49,070
jamming everything else there's no way

2327
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:51,530
that des validated even if some of the

2328
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:53,330
things that are given to you actually

2329
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:56,090
happen you'll see this usually a series

2330
01:29:59,140 --> 01:29:57,650
of things that happen and then a bigger

2331
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:59,150
one and then you're already from Vega

2332
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:00,800
and it doesn't happen and we see this

2333
01:30:04,930 --> 01:30:02,930
over and over again it's a very

2334
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:04,940
complicated area in which we're we are

2335
01:30:08,980 --> 01:30:06,770
really blind it's like we're still

2336
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:08,990
feeling around with our gifted psychics

2337
01:30:15,790 --> 01:30:11,840
though really gifted psychics but you're

2338
01:30:17,290 --> 01:30:15,800
I think more rare just see things more

2339
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:17,300
totally and more clearly and I'm more

2340
01:30:21,670 --> 01:30:19,010
grounded when they have experiences it's

2341
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:21,680
more it's more resolved with them okay

2342
01:30:25,180 --> 01:30:23,930
what we have a lot of resolve to explore

2343
01:30:27,250 --> 01:30:25,190
with Richard Serra Det

2344
01:30:28,370 --> 01:30:27,260
you're on with Jeanne and Chris you're

2345
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:28,380
in

2346
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:29,970
[Applause]

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you're listening to the parent cap the

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less than quiet researcher how's that

2450
01:35:13,020 --> 01:35:10,909
richard serra dead but he's quiet when

2451
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people give them information and say

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cast grace you want to pick up on

2455
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another question please

2456
01:35:27,970 --> 01:35:22,820
yeah i do and this comes from the cake

2457
01:35:30,970 --> 01:35:27,980
is ali i'm not sure that's an

2458
01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:30,980
interesting avatar name they signed up

2459
01:35:35,590 --> 01:35:32,480
yesterday just in time for the show

2460
01:35:37,780 --> 01:35:35,600
richard and they say first time poster

2461
01:35:40,030 --> 01:35:37,790
here with the question as someone who

2462
01:35:43,209 --> 01:35:40,040
feels unconvinced about the validity of

2463
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:43,219
memories regained by hypnotherapy I was

2464
01:35:47,830 --> 01:35:45,050
wondering what you would say to someone

2465
01:35:50,050 --> 01:35:47,840
like me to convince me or also what

2466
01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:50,060
research has been done on the subject by

2467
01:35:53,709 --> 01:35:51,920
the scientific community mainstream or

2468
01:35:55,450 --> 01:35:53,719
otherwise and what are their findings

2469
01:35:57,340 --> 01:35:55,460
now obviously we have gone over some of

2470
01:36:01,120 --> 01:35:57,350
this territory but we haven't really

2471
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:01,130
discussed the I think that this Dane

2472
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:03,290
that the academic and scientific

2473
01:36:09,250 --> 01:36:06,290
communities have in relation to hypnotic

2474
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:09,260
regression and abductions well several

2475
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:10,730
things I want to say about that first of

2476
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:13,250
all I'm not drawing any conclusions and

2477
01:36:16,750 --> 01:36:15,050
I would not got to persuade anybody of

2478
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:16,760
the validity of a hypnotically regain

2479
01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:19,250
material because I can't persuade myself

2480
01:36:24,129 --> 01:36:22,400
I just have to consider it and I think

2481
01:36:26,050 --> 01:36:24,139
always the Devils in the detail you know

2482
01:36:27,790 --> 01:36:26,060
in our in our waking life we have as we

2483
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:27,800
go through a day we have moments of more

2484
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:30,290
clarity less clarity you know we have

2485
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:32,810
emotional uprisings Laura prising all

2486
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:35,090
these things are going to color what

2487
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:36,770
comes out in a relaxed state whether

2488
01:36:39,669 --> 01:36:38,000
you're going to meditation and the

2489
01:36:41,140 --> 01:36:39,679
images that are coming up or whether you

2490
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:41,150
go into meditation and images start

2491
01:36:45,970 --> 01:36:43,130
coming up I don't think in trust any

2492
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:45,980
images on the face value that come up in

2493
01:36:49,870 --> 01:36:48,170
this area through hypnotic regression

2494
01:36:52,780 --> 01:36:49,880
they may be symbolic images to some

2495
01:36:55,060 --> 01:36:52,790
extent so I you know I I draw no

2496
01:36:56,740 --> 01:36:55,070
conclusion I would not try to convince

2497
01:36:58,270 --> 01:36:56,750
you that you should rely on on the

2498
01:37:00,790 --> 01:36:58,280
information as far as the scientific

2499
01:37:03,910 --> 01:37:00,800
attempts to valid validate the

2500
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:03,920
reliability of hypnosis it has been used

2501
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:05,810
it depends on the subject it's been used

2502
01:37:09,700 --> 01:37:08,090
very successfully on some subjects with

2503
01:37:11,050 --> 01:37:09,710
accurate information

2504
01:37:12,730 --> 01:37:11,060
and you know police departments have

2505
01:37:13,870 --> 01:37:12,740
been very successful in the FBI it's

2506
01:37:16,780 --> 01:37:13,880
been successful do you think it knows

2507
01:37:18,670 --> 01:37:16,790
it's about to get more information after

2508
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:18,680
an event then the person consciously

2509
01:37:22,630 --> 01:37:21,050
recall under hypnosis you can clarify a

2510
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:22,640
moment you can zero in on it the

2511
01:37:26,650 --> 01:37:24,770
subconscious is amazing our car the

2512
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:26,660
drove by you can go back and perhaps it

2513
01:37:30,970 --> 01:37:28,880
with the sufficient relaxation of

2514
01:37:32,710 --> 01:37:30,980
direction actually bring that image back

2515
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:32,720
up and see the license plate the make

2516
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:34,730
and model and follow the car and that

2517
01:37:38,530 --> 01:37:36,800
has been successfully used by a law

2518
01:37:40,210 --> 01:37:38,540
enforcement but it's not a foolproof

2519
01:37:41,650 --> 01:37:40,220
method you know it's not something you

2520
01:37:43,630 --> 01:37:41,660
depend on anymore and you depend on

2521
01:37:46,350 --> 01:37:43,640
remote viewing for this to read this to

2522
01:37:49,210 --> 01:37:46,360
wet-behind-the-ears to to be able to

2523
01:37:51,940 --> 01:37:49,220
consider this a valid scientific tool

2524
01:37:54,070 --> 01:37:51,950
it's just another thing that you have to

2525
01:37:55,660 --> 01:37:54,080
kind of pick and choose through like in

2526
01:37:58,840 --> 01:37:55,670
real life when you meet somebody you

2527
01:38:00,310 --> 01:37:58,850
have to pick and choose how you take

2528
01:38:04,180 --> 01:38:00,320
them you know how you respond to them

2529
01:38:06,430 --> 01:38:04,190
yeah so as far as mobility goes it's

2530
01:38:07,900 --> 01:38:06,440
it's questionable and it's up and down

2531
01:38:10,810 --> 01:38:07,910
depending on the subject and the

2532
01:38:11,740 --> 01:38:10,820
situation but at being invalid it's not

2533
01:38:14,170 --> 01:38:11,750
totally invalid

2534
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:14,180
nor is it totally valid I still can't

2535
01:38:18,610 --> 01:38:16,210
get back to feeling that with dr. Turner

2536
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:18,620
some of the experiences that she may

2537
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:21,250
have had and possibly the ones that she

2538
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:24,050
investigated involves some kind of

2539
01:38:28,540 --> 01:38:26,410
deliberate manipulation by someone that

2540
01:38:30,490 --> 01:38:28,550
wasn't something to be taken at face

2541
01:38:32,380 --> 01:38:30,500
value but let's go back and I asked this

2542
01:38:34,630 --> 01:38:32,390
before we got sidetracked with the way

2543
01:38:37,300 --> 01:38:34,640
the evidence was gathered and that is

2544
01:38:39,730 --> 01:38:37,310
the creature she saw during the course

2545
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:39,740
of these abductions can you describe

2546
01:38:45,340 --> 01:38:43,130
them in more detail well husband's

2547
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:45,350
experience in his personal collection on

2548
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:49,040
hypnosis when he discards his encounters

2549
01:38:53,890 --> 01:38:51,440
what he described and termed the ancient

2550
01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:53,900
one and he describes the Haitian one is

2551
01:39:02,110 --> 01:38:58,010
looking somewhat like a a grey but no

2552
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:02,120
wrinkled wrinkled forehead old old old

2553
01:39:09,700 --> 01:39:06,320
kind of dried up tall and spindly with

2554
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:09,710
the large cranium and large eyes but not

2555
01:39:14,950 --> 01:39:12,110
necessarily wraparound eye and his

2556
01:39:17,020 --> 01:39:14,960
description of this this his meetings

2557
01:39:19,420 --> 01:39:17,030
with this but was that he realized that

2558
01:39:22,570 --> 01:39:19,430
this was not a first meeting that this

2559
01:39:23,590 --> 01:39:22,580
he knew this being whatever and that

2560
01:39:26,770 --> 01:39:23,600
this being the eighth

2561
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:26,780
one never got happy about things or sad

2562
01:39:32,260 --> 01:39:29,840
about things just did the work so to

2563
01:39:34,770 --> 01:39:32,270
speak you know it's gotta like like a

2564
01:39:37,810 --> 01:39:34,780
scientific path or doing an experiment

2565
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:37,820
thereof yet there was a sense of great

2566
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:42,110
purpose and so that's the description he

2567
01:39:46,630 --> 01:39:44,090
would give of the creature he saw

2568
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:46,640
repeatedly sometime in his abduction and

2569
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:48,770
that there was a history he had with

2570
01:39:54,490 --> 01:39:51,650
this creature now as far as the other

2571
01:39:57,180 --> 01:39:54,500
creatures at times they are in the park

2572
01:39:59,860 --> 01:39:57,190
some of the beings described by

2573
01:40:01,900 --> 01:39:59,870
abductors taken to proper pathology

2574
01:40:05,980 --> 01:40:01,910
where the conventional greys

2575
01:40:09,250 --> 01:40:05,990
others were something else something how

2576
01:40:11,260 --> 01:40:09,260
they described reptilian literally like

2577
01:40:13,150 --> 01:40:11,270
a if you can picture a man that was a

2578
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:13,160
reptile and that there were these

2579
01:40:18,190 --> 01:40:15,050
reptilian experiences and and the

2580
01:40:19,510 --> 01:40:18,200
description of these regressions and of

2581
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:19,520
course you can remember the interaction

2582
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:20,930
between the subconscious of the

2583
01:40:24,700 --> 01:40:23,210
hypnotist and the subconscious of the

2584
01:40:26,820 --> 01:40:24,710
hypnotic subject that's why it gets so

2585
01:40:29,230 --> 01:40:26,830
tricky to interpret or put any real

2586
01:40:32,170 --> 01:40:29,240
concrete you know they've been through

2587
01:40:34,330 --> 01:40:32,180
because how much of barbara's hypno

2588
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:34,340
regressions were shaped by her spiritual

2589
01:40:38,710 --> 01:40:37,040
worldview is hard to distinguish but in

2590
01:40:40,630 --> 01:40:38,720
the case of these regressions involving

2591
01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:40,640
reptilians the experience were usually

2592
01:40:47,470 --> 01:40:42,710
extremely negative extremely aggressive

2593
01:40:50,470 --> 01:40:47,480
and you know rapes you know threats all

2594
01:40:52,330 --> 01:40:50,480
kinds of dark dark heavy manipulation

2595
01:40:53,980 --> 01:40:52,340
you know like a gang banger kind of

2596
01:40:55,780 --> 01:40:53,990
stuff you know that would be the

2597
01:40:58,750 --> 01:40:55,790
experience some of these abductees head

2598
01:41:00,640 --> 01:40:58,760
with their abductors and they would

2599
01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:00,650
describe this reptilian where other

2600
01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:02,000
people would describe a different set of

2601
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:04,400
experiences much more neutral yet all

2602
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:07,250
involved shown scenarios that see their

2603
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,010
reaction people being manipulated into

2604
01:41:14,500 --> 01:41:13,040
relationships almost free set up all

2605
01:41:16,630 --> 01:41:14,510
this material that comes out of the

2606
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:16,640
heart material out of her book you know

2607
01:41:20,020 --> 01:41:19,040
in the masquerade of angels to go back

2608
01:41:22,090 --> 01:41:20,030
to that book it I think it's

2609
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:22,100
particularly significant and useful the

2610
01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:24,650
story of Ted rice I think is a good

2611
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:26,450
example of how we're peeling the onion

2612
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:29,600
because his interpretation of experience

2613
01:41:34,750 --> 01:41:33,110
has changed the more he got into it and

2614
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:34,760
eventually he came to a place where what

2615
01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:36,080
he thought was a spiritual experience

2616
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:38,510
involving you

2617
01:41:43,690 --> 01:41:41,330
hi beings evolved into a recognition

2618
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:43,700
that wait a minute this is not what it

2619
01:41:47,950 --> 01:41:45,410
seemed and that's when he began to

2620
01:41:50,590 --> 01:41:47,960
really go is this involving flying

2621
01:41:52,690 --> 01:41:50,600
saucers and aliens that he describes

2622
01:41:54,730 --> 01:41:52,700
several mass abductions taking place

2623
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:54,740
that he saw and third with a part of

2624
01:41:59,260 --> 01:41:56,960
I've thought of Shreveport there were

2625
01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:59,270
multiple witness accounts you know his

2626
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:01,520
his journey at the journey away from

2627
01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:03,170
what he was comfortable with as a

2628
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:06,080
psychic to a much larger more

2629
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:09,410
complicated scenario and he early in his

2630
01:42:14,590 --> 01:42:12,770
book describes he gets a job one summer

2631
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:14,600
that he seemed to have been told he was

2632
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:16,370
going to get any I was going to happen

2633
01:42:23,110 --> 01:42:18,880
and he ends up working out of Sun Valley

2634
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:23,120
for the summer at you know among the you

2635
01:42:26,980 --> 01:42:25,010
know the billionaire row there where

2636
01:42:28,420 --> 01:42:26,990
everybody goes but there people go for

2637
01:42:29,770 --> 01:42:28,430
their summers and have a great time up

2638
01:42:31,450 --> 01:42:29,780
there and the fabric rental is right

2639
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:31,460
near there and so he's working there

2640
01:42:34,540 --> 01:42:32,930
that summer and he even loves the

2641
01:42:36,670 --> 01:42:34,550
mountains and from the south like me is

2642
01:42:38,980 --> 01:42:36,680
like mountains cool so he does a lot of

2643
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:38,990
hiking and on these hikes he runs into

2644
01:42:43,900 --> 01:42:41,210
this this woman he describes is very

2645
01:42:46,150 --> 01:42:43,910
attractive he sees around the place you

2646
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:46,160
know here and there she meets him and he

2647
01:42:50,260 --> 01:42:47,930
got these long hike and sometimes she'd

2648
01:42:52,030 --> 01:42:50,270
be there and waiting for him so to speak

2649
01:42:54,250 --> 01:42:52,040
and they would sit and talk and yet

2650
01:42:57,210 --> 01:42:54,260
she's very cryptic she tells very little

2651
01:43:00,220 --> 01:42:57,220
about herself she's very gentle about

2652
01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:00,230
questioning him about who he is and what

2653
01:43:04,510 --> 01:43:02,960
he feels almost like she's mentoring him

2654
01:43:06,670 --> 01:43:04,520
in a certain way and at one point

2655
01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:06,680
they're sitting and looking at the sky

2656
01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:08,840
late in the day and distant south the

2657
01:43:13,330 --> 01:43:11,600
mountains in a you know a valley and he

2658
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:13,340
says something about you believe in UFOs

2659
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:15,290
a matter of fact and he goes well yeah

2660
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:17,090
you know I don't know and then in the

2661
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:18,800
distance that UFO comes off a kind of

2662
01:43:23,410 --> 01:43:20,690
mountain peaks out and goes behind it

2663
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:23,420
she and their last meeting it says

2664
01:43:26,290 --> 01:43:24,560
something like well I've got to go back

2665
01:43:28,330 --> 01:43:26,300
to my people please get more curious

2666
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:28,340
about who she is this is very evasive he

2667
01:43:32,530 --> 01:43:30,110
keeps asking questions about this woman

2668
01:43:35,050 --> 01:43:32,540
around a resort like that and you see

2669
01:43:35,530 --> 01:43:35,060
this lady away and nobody has ever seen

2670
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:35,540
the lady

2671
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:37,520
he keeps meeting out there and she's

2672
01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:39,530
that kind of olive-skinned very

2673
01:43:43,450 --> 01:43:41,600
attractive and she says her and her

2674
01:43:45,460 --> 01:43:43,460
people live high up in the mountains and

2675
01:43:49,780 --> 01:43:45,470
that's about as close to you ever got to

2676
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:49,790
it again there this picture that forms

2677
01:43:53,620 --> 01:43:51,440
is so complicated one

2678
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:53,630
isn't quiet I am inclined to think that

2679
01:43:58,479 --> 01:43:55,280
you know we live in a great chain of

2680
01:44:00,520 --> 01:43:58,489
being and that where we think you know

2681
01:44:02,979 --> 01:44:00,530
we are the top of the ladder here in

2682
01:44:05,530 --> 01:44:02,989
this environment we may not necessarily

2683
01:44:08,170 --> 01:44:05,540
be and these other beings that these

2684
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:08,180
other people they maybe have always been

2685
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:10,130
here then maybe from somewhere else who

2686
01:44:15,250 --> 01:44:13,250
knows but these influences paint a

2687
01:44:17,890 --> 01:44:15,260
complicated picture which seems to say

2688
01:44:20,530 --> 01:44:17,900
that something is engineering us in a

2689
01:44:22,570 --> 01:44:20,540
particular direction and yet as a group

2690
01:44:24,970 --> 01:44:22,580
movement kind of move the whole society

2691
01:44:27,970 --> 01:44:24,980
in a director and yet is individualized

2692
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:27,980
also your personal path your personal

2693
01:44:33,370 --> 01:44:30,850
change you go through is also being

2694
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:33,380
managed and mentored I know it's a big

2695
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:36,770
picture to consider that's my take one

2696
01:44:43,180 --> 01:44:39,890
of the things I consider going on Wow

2697
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:43,190
that make any sense yes as a matter of

2698
01:44:46,270 --> 01:44:44,960
fact Chris has a question in the waiting

2699
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:46,280
but we'll get to our next segment before

2700
01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:46,880
we do it

2701
01:44:51,310 --> 01:44:49,460
you kind of look here as to whether it

2702
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:51,320
is all about the journey and not so much

2703
01:44:56,590 --> 01:44:53,930
ever finding out a solution to the UFO

2704
01:44:59,530 --> 01:44:56,600
mystery or whatever that morphs into 10

2705
01:45:02,080 --> 01:44:59,540
20 30 50 or 100 years from now we never

2706
01:45:04,090 --> 01:45:02,090
understand we have Richard Serra dead

2707
01:45:06,010 --> 01:45:04,100
he's the quiet researcher who's not so

2708
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:06,020
quiet when he gets going we've been

2709
01:45:10,990 --> 01:45:08,510
focusing very heavily on the work and

2710
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:11,000
experiences of dr. carla turner and the

2711
01:45:16,330 --> 01:45:13,760
people with whom she came in contact but

2712
01:45:28,180 --> 01:45:16,340
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welcome back to the para cast the gold

2760
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standard of paranormal radio and now

2761
01:48:04,710 --> 01:48:01,540
here's James Steinberg yes that shadowy

2762
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:04,720
voice belonging to Chris O'Brien because

2763
01:48:08,730 --> 01:48:06,610
something happened to his voice strange

2764
01:48:11,310 --> 01:48:08,740
creatures have taken him over it is the

2765
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:11,320
trickster I was trying to be quiet and

2766
01:48:16,350 --> 01:48:13,810
then not so quiet at the same time sorry

2767
01:48:18,210 --> 01:48:16,360
about that it didn't quite work anyway I

2768
01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:18,220
have a question from one of our longest

2769
01:48:24,500 --> 01:48:21,280
time posters at forum dr. Peric ascom

2770
01:48:29,190 --> 01:48:24,510
he's name is Ward very insightful art

2771
01:48:33,780 --> 01:48:29,200
yeah exactly it's words birthday very I

2772
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:33,790
know he's he's a big fan of Dawn's show

2773
01:48:39,930 --> 01:48:38,080
and as a big fan of yours and he has

2774
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:39,940
several questions here but because we

2775
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:41,970
were talking about descriptions of

2776
01:48:47,190 --> 01:48:45,250
modern humanoids he wants to know we

2777
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:47,200
have the standard greys tall and short

2778
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:49,930
Nordics reptilians and praying mantis

2779
01:48:56,250 --> 01:48:53,110
figures however why do we not hear of

2780
01:48:57,870 --> 01:48:56,260
spider humanoids banana people and

2781
01:48:59,760 --> 01:48:57,880
amoeba creatures

2782
01:49:02,760 --> 01:48:59,770
if Close Encounters of the Third Kind

2783
01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:02,770
are merely inventions of the mind would

2784
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:04,800
not these inventions be as varied as

2785
01:49:09,060 --> 01:49:06,880
imagination could make them excellent

2786
01:49:11,670 --> 01:49:09,070
question a tough question for which I

2787
01:49:14,570 --> 01:49:11,680
don't think we have an answer I think

2788
01:49:18,060 --> 01:49:14,580
the idea of a banana person would be a

2789
01:49:19,740 --> 01:49:18,070
real cognitive business but then again

2790
01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:19,750
you got Moses talking to a burning bush

2791
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:21,940
you know it's like if there is an

2792
01:49:26,130 --> 01:49:23,650
intelligence that operates independently

2793
01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:26,140
of our physicality but can you know

2794
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:28,510
intrude upon us either through the use

2795
01:49:32,730 --> 01:49:30,880
of our frontal lobe or by physically

2796
01:49:35,250 --> 01:49:32,740
manifesting something in front of us or

2797
01:49:36,780 --> 01:49:35,260
somehow what is that link because you

2798
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:36,790
know what comes into your eyeball it has

2799
01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:38,770
to be processed before it's interpreted

2800
01:49:42,990 --> 01:49:40,630
by the branch and as being a specific

2801
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:43,000
thing you know the optic nerve has to

2802
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:45,850
transport the data from the eyeball and

2803
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:48,250
then it has to be translated into

2804
01:49:52,890 --> 01:49:51,370
something that you is recognizable that

2805
01:49:55,170 --> 01:49:52,900
little stretch right there between those

2806
01:49:59,129 --> 01:49:55,180
who think allows for a vast amount of

2807
01:50:01,439 --> 01:49:59,139
error I I do think that I

2808
01:50:03,839 --> 01:50:01,449
experience with a recycle perfect drug

2809
01:50:05,669 --> 01:50:03,849
again reinforces that what you're

2810
01:50:08,069 --> 01:50:05,679
looking at is you're looking at

2811
01:50:12,299 --> 01:50:08,079
something you know the observer is the

2812
01:50:14,399 --> 01:50:12,309
thing observed to a large extent so if

2813
01:50:17,219 --> 01:50:14,409
there is an outside entity which has a

2814
01:50:19,259 --> 01:50:17,229
purpose which includes you know inducing

2815
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:19,269
a cognitive business maybe it takes a

2816
01:50:23,939 --> 01:50:22,449
form that is very serendipitous or

2817
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:23,949
ridiculous that maybe there's going to

2818
01:50:27,149 --> 01:50:25,840
be a talking banana you know so it's

2819
01:50:29,279 --> 01:50:27,159
hard to know is this just a

2820
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:29,289
manifestation of your own mind these are

2821
01:50:34,859 --> 01:50:31,449
things we are we are struggling forward

2822
01:50:37,020 --> 01:50:34,869
dr. Kenneth ring however you know I hear

2823
01:50:42,089 --> 01:50:37,030
with them either one of you Kenneth J

2824
01:50:43,649 --> 01:50:42,099
ring yes in Ralph ring yes and you know

2825
01:50:46,639 --> 01:50:43,659
the results of their research their

2826
01:50:50,129 --> 01:50:46,649
study they found the correlation

2827
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:50,139
correlation of incidences of abduction

2828
01:50:55,529 --> 01:50:52,449
reports from people who had traumatic

2829
01:50:59,429 --> 01:50:55,539
are abusive experiences when they were

2830
01:51:02,159 --> 01:50:59,439
young and I think he tended to interpret

2831
01:51:03,719 --> 01:51:02,169
that in a way that I also kind of a Terp

2832
01:51:06,419 --> 01:51:03,729
a little bit from my own experience and

2833
01:51:07,949 --> 01:51:06,429
that is you can be more vulnerable at

2834
01:51:10,290 --> 01:51:07,959
times through these kinds of intrusions

2835
01:51:12,779 --> 01:51:10,300
depending on where you are personally

2836
01:51:14,370 --> 01:51:12,789
than at other time and people have had

2837
01:51:16,469 --> 01:51:14,380
like who've died and come back to life

2838
01:51:17,759 --> 01:51:16,479
on that on the operating table I know

2839
01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:17,769
several my friends who went through

2840
01:51:20,939 --> 01:51:19,119
Vietnam who had these kind of

2841
01:51:22,889 --> 01:51:20,949
experiences that the tunnel of light and

2842
01:51:24,299 --> 01:51:22,899
then thinking they're free and feeling

2843
01:51:26,459 --> 01:51:24,309
wonderful and free and then also now

2844
01:51:28,859 --> 01:51:26,469
you're not done yet they're right back

2845
01:51:30,540 --> 01:51:28,869
and they're back in the medevac but

2846
01:51:32,429 --> 01:51:30,550
they're just being sewn up and by

2847
01:51:35,580 --> 01:51:32,439
pumping blood into all that kind of

2848
01:51:37,859 --> 01:51:35,590
stuff but people have had a traumatic

2849
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:37,869
experiences with illness people who have

2850
01:51:42,750 --> 01:51:41,110
had sexual abuse or physical abuse this

2851
01:51:47,310 --> 01:51:42,760
this reduction in the sense of a

2852
01:51:49,199 --> 01:51:47,320
person's safety and inviolability that

2853
01:51:51,540 --> 01:51:49,209
has broken that trust that safest is

2854
01:51:53,909 --> 01:51:51,550
broken at a very early age they seem to

2855
01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:53,919
be more susceptible according to doctor

2856
01:51:58,589 --> 01:51:56,320
rank to the abducted experience maybe

2857
01:52:02,060 --> 01:51:58,599
with that argument yeah absolutely in

2858
01:52:04,529 --> 01:52:02,070
fact traumatic experience can really

2859
01:52:07,229 --> 01:52:04,539
adversely impact a person all throughout

2860
01:52:08,759 --> 01:52:07,239
their life and in this this brings up

2861
01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:08,769
another really interesting question that

2862
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:11,590
Ward has and he says in Europe in

2863
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:12,850
which and how much of a role do you

2864
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:15,970
think we as the observer play in the UFO

2865
01:52:20,970 --> 01:52:18,880
paranormal phenomenon are we co-creators

2866
01:52:23,430 --> 01:52:20,980
and witnessing creating the activity or

2867
01:52:25,140 --> 01:52:23,440
are we simply observers to it I think

2868
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:25,150
that's a very tricky question because if

2869
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:27,250
something can can use your own mental

2870
01:52:32,910 --> 01:52:29,890
faculties like remotely like you could

2871
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:32,920
take over control of the computer you

2872
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:35,050
know who's to say how much of it is your

2873
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:36,610
interpretation how much is it being

2874
01:52:41,340 --> 01:52:39,010
projected into you it's very very very

2875
01:52:43,380 --> 01:52:41,350
iffy we can only interpret things

2876
01:52:45,810 --> 01:52:43,390
according to our ability to interpret

2877
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:45,820
them you know like a dream a dream have

2878
01:52:50,700 --> 01:52:47,770
very odd images but sometimes if you

2879
01:52:52,290 --> 01:52:50,710
break down even if you studied red in

2880
01:52:54,270 --> 01:52:52,300
the work of Carl Jung you'll see how

2881
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:54,280
rich and airy this is for understanding

2882
01:53:00,540 --> 01:52:57,130
oneself that there is an active part of

2883
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:00,550
our being which almost acts outside of

2884
01:53:05,430 --> 01:53:02,530
ourselves on ourselves to put us in

2885
01:53:08,940 --> 01:53:05,440
certain situations I think so it's very

2886
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:08,950
complicated in subtle angry it's a it's

2887
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:11,170
a Hall of Mirrors with a quicksand floor

2888
01:53:15,870 --> 01:53:14,080
I think is Linda mole and how put it at

2889
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:15,880
one point but Chris don't you think

2890
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:18,370
because the floor keeps moving that we

2891
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:20,170
have to keep moving and that may be the

2892
01:53:27,060 --> 01:53:23,410
point yeah absolutely and you know I've

2893
01:53:29,190 --> 01:53:27,070
cautioned you know people said people

2894
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:29,200
that attend conferences and I'm sitting

2895
01:53:33,060 --> 01:53:31,360
up at the podium the first thing I say

2896
01:53:34,740 --> 01:53:33,070
is I'm not an expert I don't claim to be

2897
01:53:37,470 --> 01:53:34,750
one people call me that but don't

2898
01:53:39,900 --> 01:53:37,480
believe them and anybody that does come

2899
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:39,910
up here and say they're an expert don't

2900
01:53:45,630 --> 01:53:42,880
believe them and run away so I mean all

2901
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:45,640
we have is more is people that ask more

2902
01:53:51,420 --> 01:53:48,250
creative questions obviously we really

2903
01:53:53,370 --> 01:53:51,430
haven't gained much further unders

2904
01:53:55,140 --> 01:53:53,380
understanding we haven't really pushed

2905
01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:55,150
the ball down the field in the last 60

2906
01:53:59,280 --> 01:53:57,520
years I mean there's no irrefutable

2907
01:54:01,680 --> 01:53:59,290
proof that we're being visited by

2908
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:01,690
extraterrestrials all this is all

2909
01:54:07,050 --> 01:54:02,530
anecdotal

2910
01:54:10,440 --> 01:54:07,060
it's totally subjective we don't have an

2911
01:54:12,270 --> 01:54:10,450
answer and so I think Richard you you

2912
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:12,280
will agree and I'm sure gene does that

2913
01:54:16,650 --> 01:54:13,930
we need people with more creative

2914
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:16,660
questions the jock valets the keels of

2915
01:54:21,210 --> 01:54:18,730
people like Terence Mckenna

2916
01:54:22,710 --> 01:54:21,220
and others who you know are trying to

2917
01:54:25,390 --> 01:54:22,720
look at this thing outside of the box

2918
01:54:26,890 --> 01:54:25,400
and not only figure out the

2919
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:26,900
new questions and the creative

2920
01:54:31,750 --> 01:54:29,570
approaches that we need to take but why

2921
01:54:34,570 --> 01:54:31,760
the the approaches that we've you know

2922
01:54:36,850 --> 01:54:34,580
for decades have been trying aren't

2923
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:36,860
working so there's there's a major

2924
01:54:41,620 --> 01:54:39,530
disconnect between spinning your wheels

2925
01:54:43,390 --> 01:54:41,630
and pushing the ball down the field and

2926
01:54:45,130 --> 01:54:43,400
I think you'd agree with that I would -

2927
01:54:46,810 --> 01:54:45,140
I absolutely agree with you and I think

2928
01:54:49,810 --> 01:54:46,820
that is the challenge that we all work

2929
01:54:51,220 --> 01:54:49,820
so hard up is once we recognize this we

2930
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:51,230
always going to make the disclaimer like

2931
01:54:54,250 --> 01:54:52,730
I'm no expert I don't know anything

2932
01:54:58,780 --> 01:54:54,260
because the more you know the more you

2933
01:55:00,370 --> 01:54:58,790
realize man you don't know but I think I

2934
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:00,380
think we have move the ball to that

2935
01:55:03,700 --> 01:55:01,610
extent that we've come to the

2936
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:03,710
realization that we got to look deeper

2937
01:55:09,250 --> 01:55:07,040
this ain't it yeah I love it when people

2938
01:55:11,290 --> 01:55:09,260
introduce me to a stranger and they say

2939
01:55:13,479 --> 01:55:11,300
hey this is the guy that believes in

2940
01:55:16,810 --> 01:55:13,489
aliens and I you know my immediate

2941
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:16,820
response is wait a minute yeah we're not

2942
01:55:21,399 --> 01:55:18,890
the aliens and what we think is alien is

2943
01:55:23,830 --> 01:55:21,409
more terrestrial than we are I'd say

2944
01:55:25,570 --> 01:55:23,840
that I get that of course because I've

2945
01:55:27,610 --> 01:55:25,580
got parents and students and all kind of

2946
01:55:29,439 --> 01:55:27,620
stuff and the assumption is to built

2947
01:55:31,780 --> 01:55:29,449
into something they made you know it's

2948
01:55:34,180 --> 01:55:31,790
interesting I have a cousin he's a

2949
01:55:35,860 --> 01:55:34,190
retired University professor and I met

2950
01:55:38,050 --> 01:55:35,870
him maybe two or three times in my life

2951
01:55:38,979 --> 01:55:38,060
partly because I live far away from

2952
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:38,989
where he lived

2953
01:55:42,750 --> 01:55:41,360
okay I later learning getting back in

2954
01:55:47,110 --> 01:55:42,760
touch with this branch of the family

2955
01:55:48,939 --> 01:55:47,120
that he didn't like me why because I was

2956
01:55:51,610 --> 01:55:48,949
interested in UFOs and he didn't believe

2957
01:55:54,340 --> 01:55:51,620
in aliens so therefore I was a bad guy

2958
01:55:57,459 --> 01:55:54,350
yeah yeah well I have a student whose

2959
01:56:01,149 --> 01:55:57,469
mom is a NASA scientist working on the

2960
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:01,159
on the Titan project the moon Titan

2961
01:56:07,180 --> 01:56:04,850
project you know her and and she's you

2962
01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:07,190
know he's the one with scientists with

2963
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:09,199
our particular specialty working of it

2964
01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:11,810
and that they come into my class and

2965
01:56:14,919 --> 01:56:13,310
sophomores they've already heard the

2966
01:56:16,630 --> 01:56:14,929
story about you know are you gonna be a

2967
01:56:18,580 --> 01:56:16,640
freshman of course I'm considered

2968
01:56:19,810 --> 01:56:18,590
anything about the quiet researcher at

2969
01:56:21,850 --> 01:56:19,820
school I'm a very uh

2970
01:56:24,970 --> 01:56:21,860
lively energetic characters you might

2971
01:56:26,229 --> 01:56:24,980
get from this interview anything but

2972
01:56:29,740 --> 01:56:26,239
quiet in fact Greg might've been

2973
01:56:31,959 --> 01:56:29,750
sarcastic and think that so what's gonna

2974
01:56:33,970 --> 01:56:31,969
happen now as Greg Bishop is listening

2975
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:33,980
to this episode he says you know I'm

2976
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:36,070
gonna call Richard the loudmouth

2977
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:39,210
researcher No

2978
01:56:44,189 --> 01:56:42,639
you know I can't I can't you know it's

2979
01:56:47,220 --> 01:56:44,199
his name for me I got to accept either

2980
01:56:49,709 --> 01:56:47,230
one I'm sure it's done in the spirit of

2981
01:56:52,649 --> 01:56:49,719
friendship because you're really a nice

2982
01:56:54,089 --> 01:56:52,659
guy terrific guy and a great research

2983
01:56:56,189 --> 01:56:54,099
and always challenging me to think

2984
01:56:57,839 --> 01:56:56,199
deeper and think broader drag is pretty

2985
01:56:59,490 --> 01:56:57,849
great at that we always enjoy having

2986
01:57:00,810 --> 01:56:59,500
Greg on the show because he always gets

2987
01:57:03,180 --> 01:57:00,820
a new insight and then you think about

2988
01:57:05,939 --> 01:57:03,190
something that hasn't come to your mind

2989
01:57:08,609 --> 01:57:05,949
and that's what we need in the UFO field

2990
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:08,619
more and more is out-of-the-box thinking

2991
01:57:11,459 --> 01:57:10,570
because the conventional wisdom has

2992
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:11,469
taken us nowhere

2993
01:57:15,540 --> 01:57:14,170
the conventional wisdom is everything

2994
01:57:17,729 --> 01:57:15,550
you could learn from the first book that

2995
01:57:20,010 --> 01:57:17,739
major Donald Kehoe wrote about UFOs back

2996
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in 1950 that's the conventional wisdom

2997
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that's old-fashioned Richard Serra dead

2998
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is not old fashioned despite of my age

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you're with gene and Chris you're in the

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3021
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affairs I continue to hear stories about

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property seizures frozen bank accounts

3024
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confiscation of stocks and bonds it

3025
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3027
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old-fashioned either he's the youngin

3105
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amongst our little group we have Richard

3106
02:02:09,500 --> 02:02:07,410
Serra dad joining us Chris

3107
02:02:11,030 --> 02:02:09,510
any more questions in our forms we

3108
02:02:13,370 --> 02:02:11,040
didn't give much time for the questions

3109
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:13,380
to be asked yeah I do and I have another

3110
02:02:18,230 --> 02:02:15,330
one from Ward Richard you know we did

3111
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:18,240
talk about Mike younger a little bit but

3112
02:02:22,190 --> 02:02:20,250
Ward has a question that kind of drills

3113
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:22,200
down a little bit on this could you

3114
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:24,330
describe your own personal experience

3115
02:02:29,630 --> 02:02:27,690
with meeting bob lazar of area 51 Fame

3116
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:29,640
and your impressions of him and his

3117
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:33,210
story that's part one and also and this

3118
02:02:37,220 --> 02:02:35,040
is this is a bit of a twist that I

3119
02:02:40,370 --> 02:02:37,230
wasn't aware of also could you describe

3120
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:40,380
who alerted you to a possible Yakuza

3121
02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:43,110
connection with Bob Lazar and I think

3122
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:44,730
that comes from the enigmatic character

3123
02:02:47,900 --> 02:02:46,650
known as Mike younger and the strange

3124
02:02:49,730 --> 02:02:47,910
and the surrounding him and his

3125
02:02:53,060 --> 02:02:49,740
information but why don't you address

3126
02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:53,070
Lazar first in you know briefly and then

3127
02:02:58,340 --> 02:02:55,440
talk about a Yakuza connection that's

3128
02:03:00,290 --> 02:02:58,350
that's one on me well I met Bob Lazar

3129
02:03:03,020 --> 02:03:00,300
when Don and I went up to interview him

3130
02:03:05,300 --> 02:03:03,030
and I played the role of the cameraman I

3131
02:03:07,310 --> 02:03:05,310
had the camera though I reasonable being

3132
02:03:10,670 --> 02:03:07,320
there was to record the conversation and

3133
02:03:13,070 --> 02:03:10,680
I get that with my way of being quote

3134
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:13,080
unquote invisible you know not really

3135
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:14,880
being there to do the research

3136
02:03:19,730 --> 02:03:18,090
it's a quiet researcher yeah and just

3137
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:19,740
gonna be there and listen like a fly on

3138
02:03:22,340 --> 02:03:20,250
the wall

3139
02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:22,350
now this dives right into what war was

3140
02:03:27,110 --> 02:03:23,760
saying we discussed this briefly

3141
02:03:29,810 --> 02:03:27,120
recently on the front dontel younger

3142
02:03:31,550 --> 02:03:29,820
head said when when I told him Don and I

3143
02:03:33,500 --> 02:03:31,560
were to go up there and go into view bob

3144
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:33,510
lazar he could pay when you're in

3145
02:03:37,430 --> 02:03:35,730
Lazaro's house make sure you make a trip

3146
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:37,440
to the bathroom and then the aunt even

3147
02:03:41,510 --> 02:03:38,970
for the bathroom there's pictures on the

3148
02:03:43,550 --> 02:03:41,520
wall and look at that picture that the

3149
02:03:46,700 --> 02:03:43,560
picture birds are standing with some

3150
02:03:49,550 --> 02:03:46,710
other people and he said you will see

3151
02:03:51,620 --> 02:03:49,560
that they are Japanese and if you look

3152
02:03:53,180 --> 02:03:51,630
carefully you will see you can actually

3153
02:03:54,230 --> 02:03:53,190
see you know the aku's is where a mark

3154
02:03:57,170 --> 02:03:54,240
aren't there risk

3155
02:03:59,540 --> 02:03:57,180
you know that they have a tattoo yaku is

3156
02:04:02,930 --> 02:03:59,550
this new he said you will see that that

3157
02:04:04,820 --> 02:04:02,940
you so sure enough we also missing the

3158
02:04:08,330 --> 02:04:04,830
last digit of their little finger on the

3159
02:04:10,670 --> 02:04:08,340
right hand or something not only have

3160
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:10,680
they been bed up like that but it was

3161
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:13,530
very sounds like the TV show 24 where

3162
02:04:17,150 --> 02:04:15,810
they torture people well you know

3163
02:04:19,190 --> 02:04:17,160
there's all this ritual when you're

3164
02:04:21,020 --> 02:04:19,200
doing bangs no I said like you know

3165
02:04:23,870 --> 02:04:21,030
building on that tribal mentality of

3166
02:04:25,550 --> 02:04:23,880
blood commitment regarding the Yakuza

3167
02:04:27,980 --> 02:04:25,560
president said Bob South this brought

3168
02:04:29,780 --> 02:04:27,990
into a big issue that younger with

3169
02:04:33,170 --> 02:04:29,790
beginning through the people you've

3170
02:04:35,180 --> 02:04:33,180
talked to including me and his warnings

3171
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:35,190
on the Lazar was this is not what it

3172
02:04:38,950 --> 02:04:36,690
seems to be at all you know this is not

3173
02:04:42,260 --> 02:04:38,960
what it seems to be at all and that

3174
02:04:46,340 --> 02:04:42,270
there was a lot of concern at security

3175
02:04:49,190 --> 02:04:46,350
levels with the government who was who

3176
02:04:52,460 --> 02:04:49,200
was trying to espionage you know our

3177
02:04:54,260 --> 02:04:52,470
stop at area 51 and that this project

3178
02:04:56,510 --> 02:04:54,270
may have been more about outing

3179
02:05:00,140 --> 02:04:56,520
hopefully some of these agents and that

3180
02:05:03,740 --> 02:05:00,150
this whole thing was a dramatic exercise

3181
02:05:06,500 --> 02:05:03,750
to bring out or catching are getting a

3182
02:05:08,330 --> 02:05:06,510
handle on foreign espionage agents 93

3183
02:05:10,250 --> 02:05:08,340
but there's never one agenda in an

3184
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:10,260
operation usually their agendas folder

3185
02:05:14,630 --> 02:05:11,970
with an agenda the one operation can

3186
02:05:16,220 --> 02:05:14,640
accomplish several tasks at once and I

3187
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:16,230
think there's our scenario might be a

3188
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:18,450
good example of that so so you're saying

3189
02:05:24,140 --> 02:05:21,930
that the the the outing of Bob Lazar and

3190
02:05:26,090 --> 02:05:24,150
George Knapp's original contact of him

3191
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:26,100
and the original outpouring of

3192
02:05:30,170 --> 02:05:28,290
information may have been some sort of

3193
02:05:33,530 --> 02:05:30,180
disinformation or County or espionage

3194
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:33,540
program yeah I think at least what the

3195
02:05:37,900 --> 02:05:36,210
younger was indicating and I begin to

3196
02:05:40,130 --> 02:05:37,910
start to look at it through those lenses

3197
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:40,140
that was definitely direction he was he

3198
02:05:45,290 --> 02:05:42,450
was pushing us to look at the time like

3199
02:05:47,390 --> 02:05:45,300
don't take it at face value and you know

3200
02:05:49,790 --> 02:05:47,400
the fact that he could describe the

3201
02:05:51,380 --> 02:05:49,800
interior and the layout of Meszaros

3202
02:05:53,390 --> 02:05:51,390
house and where I should go to see this

3203
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:53,400
photograph really raised some eyebrows

3204
02:05:58,400 --> 02:05:55,610
because if he was in that house it

3205
02:05:59,960 --> 02:05:58,410
wasn't with youngest but with uh you

3206
02:06:02,600 --> 02:05:59,970
know at some point it wasn't alarms

3207
02:06:04,700 --> 02:06:02,610
permission so I thought that was part

3208
02:06:05,930 --> 02:06:04,710
III whether you personally thought of

3209
02:06:08,089 --> 02:06:05,940
whether that's given to him I don't know

3210
02:06:10,729 --> 02:06:08,099
but I got just by having gone

3211
02:06:12,979 --> 02:06:10,739
after that area with Mike younger three

3212
02:06:16,459 --> 02:06:12,989
different time his knowledge of the area

3213
02:06:19,879 --> 02:06:16,469
was extremely detailed so whatever was

3214
02:06:22,129 --> 02:06:19,889
he seemed to be a look know where to go

3215
02:06:23,719 --> 02:06:22,139
what to do and what to avoid looking at

3216
02:06:26,659 --> 02:06:23,729
Bob Lazar that's such a big question

3217
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:26,669
mark there we have for example the fact

3218
02:06:29,810 --> 02:06:28,530
that he claims educational credentials

3219
02:06:32,359 --> 02:06:29,820
that appeared to have disappeared all

3220
02:06:34,639 --> 02:06:32,369
that stuff do you really think for

3221
02:06:37,009 --> 02:06:34,649
example if his background was genuine

3222
02:06:38,899 --> 02:06:37,019
that the military has the power to go to

3223
02:06:41,179 --> 02:06:38,909
all these educational institutions take

3224
02:06:44,750 --> 02:06:41,189
a whole person's life history and wipe

3225
02:06:48,009 --> 02:06:44,760
it out the military does but yo yeah i

3226
02:06:51,859 --> 02:06:50,359
I'd like to wipe out a few things about

3227
02:06:52,339 --> 02:06:51,869
my background but that's a different

3228
02:06:55,219 --> 02:06:52,349
story

3229
02:06:57,349 --> 02:06:55,229
I'd like to help thank you I appreciate

3230
02:06:59,270 --> 02:06:57,359
that thank you for your support let's

3231
02:07:00,770 --> 02:06:59,280
get started I think everybody has

3232
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:00,780
something they did in their lives

3233
02:07:06,139 --> 02:07:04,050
I want to wipe that out you know Bob

3234
02:07:08,810 --> 02:07:06,149
it's hard to know my impression the

3235
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:08,820
answer warrants question uh of Lazar

3236
02:07:12,409 --> 02:07:10,800
himself when I was there I was quite

3237
02:07:15,679 --> 02:07:12,419
intrigued the medium of course because I

3238
02:07:17,839 --> 02:07:15,689
remember I had seen his first appearance

3239
02:07:19,909 --> 02:07:17,849
on a UFO cover-up live and he was in

3240
02:07:21,409 --> 02:07:19,919
shadow and later and it all just kind of

3241
02:07:23,359 --> 02:07:21,419
flew up you know so I was quite

3242
02:07:26,659 --> 02:07:23,369
intrigued that that's opportunity we met

3243
02:07:30,099 --> 02:07:26,669
with Jeanne Hoffman 1913 house and then

3244
02:07:32,899 --> 02:07:30,109
we grow together over to Bob's house and

3245
02:07:35,270 --> 02:07:32,909
pulling it up up to Bob's house first of

3246
02:07:38,659 --> 02:07:35,280
all you struck by the fact that in his

3247
02:07:39,979 --> 02:07:38,669
driveway under the carport just a jet

3248
02:07:41,899 --> 02:07:39,989
engine mounted on a car

3249
02:07:45,049 --> 02:07:41,909
the rocking car right the rocket car

3250
02:07:46,879 --> 02:07:45,059
this gigantic thing right and then go

3251
02:07:49,479 --> 02:07:46,889
inside the house this is a typical Las

3252
02:07:52,459 --> 02:07:49,489
Vegas neighborhood out very very tidy

3253
02:07:54,649 --> 02:07:52,469
almost like a model

3254
02:07:57,560 --> 02:07:54,659
like a model house you know everything

3255
02:07:59,479 --> 02:07:57,570
in his place and there was the room

3256
02:08:01,219 --> 02:07:59,489
where he hung out where the computers

3257
02:08:03,739 --> 02:08:01,229
were and he it was like a divided living

3258
02:08:05,629 --> 02:08:03,749
property hit desk sticking out so he sat

3259
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:05,639
in this area behind the desk looking out

3260
02:08:09,439 --> 02:08:07,530
the living room computers to the right

3261
02:08:13,189 --> 02:08:09,449
right angle another - computers to the

3262
02:08:14,719 --> 02:08:13,199
left and then down down the hall went

3263
02:08:16,580 --> 02:08:14,729
toward the bathroom to turn left

3264
02:08:18,739 --> 02:08:16,590
he went into what was his I guess a

3265
02:08:22,010 --> 02:08:18,749
working area because in the middle of

3266
02:08:25,970 --> 02:08:22,020
the room stood this o-67 15

3267
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:25,980
all Tesla coil you know generated that

3268
02:08:30,530 --> 02:08:28,290
end all the sparks you know a thing the

3269
02:08:31,550 --> 02:08:30,540
big blast generator you know I'm talking

3270
02:08:33,050 --> 02:08:31,560
about right if I got the right

3271
02:08:34,850 --> 02:08:33,060
terminology but I don't like a Van de

3272
02:08:36,350 --> 02:08:34,860
Graaff generator Van de Graaff Jim thank

3273
02:08:38,990 --> 02:08:36,360
you very much that's it

3274
02:08:40,970 --> 02:08:39,000
who knows this big bright shiny new Van

3275
02:08:42,710 --> 02:08:40,980
de Graaff generator it's now before the

3276
02:08:44,030 --> 02:08:42,720
listeners who wonder about that isn't

3277
02:08:48,650 --> 02:08:44,040
that the one that would make the hair

3278
02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:48,660
stand on your head you know would you

3279
02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:50,250
should demonstrate this ability with the

3280
02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:52,250
sparks all flying around he could go on

3281
02:08:59,300 --> 02:08:54,960
great it's a great stage prop a great

3282
02:09:00,110 --> 02:08:59,310
thanks for great theater yeah one when I

3283
02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:00,120
was a teenager

3284
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:04,530
did you really Franz I did John here we

3285
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:06,000
used to player that is in his basement

3286
02:09:11,870 --> 02:09:08,130
that's pretty cool that's how I was the

3287
02:09:13,430 --> 02:09:11,880
hair last it's a lot of fun then the

3288
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fuzz then it does the fuzz

3289
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unless you're Nick Redfern yes and he

3290
02:09:29,060 --> 02:09:22,860
basically levitates about three feet but

3291
02:09:31,190 --> 02:09:29,070
that's like where he worked

3292
02:09:33,110 --> 02:09:31,200
they were like counters along the wall

3293
02:09:35,210 --> 02:09:33,120
there was a few computer things there a

3294
02:09:37,910 --> 02:09:35,220
few little things there but it it looked

3295
02:09:39,590 --> 02:09:37,920
more like a set than it was an actual

3296
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:39,600
working space didn't have like the

3297
02:09:43,970 --> 02:09:42,000
Untied eNOS and the stuff you would see

3298
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:43,980
if I was pretty doing research there

3299
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:45,690
look more like you should said I desk

3300
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:48,930
yeah we set up a set like they were

3301
02:09:51,950 --> 02:09:50,490
gonna shoot a show here so that always

3302
02:09:52,700 --> 02:09:51,960
struck me as weird as far as him

3303
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:52,710
personally

3304
02:09:59,210 --> 02:09:55,970
he's very forthright he's very direct

3305
02:10:01,730 --> 02:09:59,220
yet there's a I don't know if there's

3306
02:10:04,940 --> 02:10:01,740
something terribly disconnected in him

3307
02:10:06,860 --> 02:10:04,950
for me there's an actor looking another

3308
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:06,870
human being is like there's something

3309
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:09,330
blank in there okay does it look like

3310
02:10:11,900 --> 02:10:10,770
I'm gonna ask you this question but

3311
02:10:12,410 --> 02:10:11,910
we'll hold the answer till the next

3312
02:10:15,140 --> 02:10:12,420
segment

3313
02:10:16,940 --> 02:10:15,150
does it look like it's all an act he's

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putting on this persona for the benefit

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of whatever we have richard serra de

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joining us with Jean and Chris you're in

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hi this is nuclear physicist lecturers

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and Friedman you are listening to the

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pair again to the gold standard a

3426
02:14:59,160 --> 02:14:56,350
paranormal radio so we're talking about

3427
02:15:01,800 --> 02:14:59,170
Bob Lazar very controversial figure in

3428
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:01,810
UFO research we have Richard Syrett at

3429
02:15:06,780 --> 02:15:03,730
the quiet researcher joining gene and

3430
02:15:09,720 --> 02:15:06,790
Chris so okay play-acting or what hard

3431
02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:09,730
call I I think I think there is

3432
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:11,830
definitely an element of play-acting in

3433
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:14,050
the air this is an act of myself but an

3434
02:15:18,060 --> 02:15:16,330
act play-acting that's been embraced so

3435
02:15:18,720 --> 02:15:18,070
that it isn't even play I think they

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have anymore

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on the other hand that curious little

3438
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:24,730
area I'd call a blank spot makes me

3439
02:15:30,060 --> 02:15:27,090
wonder if there isn't some degree of

3440
02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:30,070
program in there that he's been

3441
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:32,800
with you know like maybe I don't know

3442
02:15:37,650 --> 02:15:36,130
but that he's not personality you know

3443
02:15:40,650 --> 02:15:37,660
you get that just seeing him that this

3444
02:15:43,050 --> 02:15:40,660
he's an unusual personality well is it a

3445
02:15:48,390 --> 02:15:43,060
matter of being cold or what we're

3446
02:15:52,410 --> 02:15:48,400
dissing yeah yeah he seems to to Pat

3447
02:15:55,950 --> 02:15:52,420
it's yeah like he anticipates he has all

3448
02:16:02,130 --> 02:15:55,960
his answers lined up and dialed in it's

3449
02:16:04,229 --> 02:16:02,140
all rehearsed can we get past that and

3450
02:16:06,660 --> 02:16:04,239
no no he kind of controls it in this

3451
02:16:10,350 --> 02:16:06,670
days right there so when I went there I

3452
02:16:12,570 --> 02:16:10,360
I felt like very very suspicious of

3453
02:16:14,459 --> 02:16:12,580
Lazar extremely suspicious now you tell

3454
02:16:15,810 --> 02:16:14,469
us you're suspicious of Lazar but I

3455
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:15,820
think we have a lot of listeners who

3456
02:16:20,070 --> 02:16:17,770
heard Lazar mention our show from time

3457
02:16:22,350 --> 02:16:20,080
to time and maybe we need that 30

3458
02:16:25,290 --> 02:16:22,360
seconds or a minute backup to explain

3459
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what this character is for me yeah go

3460
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:27,070
ahead and kind of tell our listeners

3461
02:16:31,650 --> 02:16:29,530
again remind them what this guy is doing

3462
02:16:33,089 --> 02:16:31,660
and claiming and then we can get back to

3463
02:16:35,850 --> 02:16:33,099
the real okay all right all right

3464
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:35,860
so Lazar was the guy who was outed on on

3465
02:16:40,410 --> 02:16:38,050
first time we seem in the public as far

3466
02:16:41,969 --> 02:16:40,420
as I know is on UFO cover-up life when

3467
02:16:44,129 --> 02:16:41,979
he's presented in shadow is Dennis and

3468
02:16:47,580 --> 02:16:44,139
thoughts about being hired to work at

3469
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:47,590
area 51 by a teller to work on

3470
02:16:53,339 --> 02:16:49,210
back-engineering the propulsion system

3471
02:16:55,500 --> 02:16:53,349
of a flying saucer and he said

3472
02:16:59,309 --> 02:16:55,510
describes his first visit out there and

3473
02:17:02,009 --> 02:16:59,319
being taken there and walking into the

3474
02:17:04,859 --> 02:17:02,019
buildings and walking down the hallway

3475
02:17:07,679 --> 02:17:04,869
and through a window and he describes he

3476
02:17:09,990 --> 02:17:07,689
actually sees the window briefly what he

3477
02:17:12,660 --> 02:17:10,000
describes as a gray like in a white

3478
02:17:15,089 --> 02:17:12,670
smock talking to another scientist in a

3479
02:17:16,859 --> 02:17:15,099
room now that could have been staged for

3480
02:17:18,839 --> 02:17:16,869
him or whatever he then describes

3481
02:17:21,330 --> 02:17:18,849
working on the saucer that he was

3482
02:17:24,419 --> 02:17:21,340
brought there to work on and describes

3483
02:17:27,179 --> 02:17:24,429
the saucer as the one you see put out by

3484
02:17:29,070 --> 02:17:27,189
tester the s4 saucer but they build on a

3485
02:17:30,839 --> 02:17:29,080
face of the plethoric description and

3486
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:30,849
other people's description not Jeff both

3487
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:33,760
are and Ruth emphasized that but that

3488
02:17:37,379 --> 02:17:35,290
the seats they were seized in there they

3489
02:17:41,009 --> 02:17:37,389
would small found like that there were

3490
02:17:43,500 --> 02:17:41,019
three gravity wave generators put in a

3491
02:17:45,089 --> 02:17:43,510
triangular format inside the ship that

3492
02:17:46,859 --> 02:17:45,099
there was a two level the lower level

3493
02:17:49,530 --> 02:17:46,869
was where that year was the upper level

3494
02:17:51,689 --> 02:17:49,540
was where the they operated from and

3495
02:17:54,089 --> 02:17:51,699
that this thing had no seams in it

3496
02:17:56,129 --> 02:17:54,099
whatsoever it all seemed to be cast from

3497
02:17:57,540 --> 02:17:56,139
one piece he also describes at one time

3498
02:18:01,530 --> 02:17:57,550
being brought out there at night and

3499
02:18:03,839 --> 02:18:01,540
actually seeing a demonstration of his

3500
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:03,849
craft and he describes looking out the

3501
02:18:08,609 --> 02:18:06,250
hangar into the night there in front of

3502
02:18:11,429 --> 02:18:08,619
the hangars and there was a swarm of

3503
02:18:13,379 --> 02:18:11,439
these disks kind of a rocking and

3504
02:18:16,229 --> 02:18:13,389
rolling and moving about he described

3505
02:18:17,639 --> 02:18:16,239
that like not one but a swarm like three

3506
02:18:19,139 --> 02:18:17,649
or four or five I don't know and they

3507
02:18:21,870 --> 02:18:19,149
were all out there moving around like

3508
02:18:24,599 --> 02:18:21,880
that so that's pretty bizarre so Richard

3509
02:18:27,149 --> 02:18:24,609
Richard we let me digress for a second

3510
02:18:29,490 --> 02:18:27,159
he also took some very famous and

3511
02:18:31,799 --> 02:18:29,500
notable researcher investigator author

3512
02:18:33,269 --> 02:18:31,809
types out there and predicted that they

3513
02:18:37,950 --> 02:18:33,279
would see something I think it was on a

3514
02:18:40,859 --> 02:18:37,960
Wednesday night he also claimed that he

3515
02:18:44,250 --> 02:18:40,869
was working with some new undiscovered

3516
02:18:46,589 --> 02:18:44,260
element called element 115 which now has

3517
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:46,599
been actually discovered and classified

3518
02:18:50,359 --> 02:18:48,399
which is nothing like he he described

3519
02:18:53,669 --> 02:18:50,369
but he also claimed that he was

3520
02:18:55,889 --> 02:18:53,679
potentially drugged and that there was

3521
02:18:58,530 --> 02:18:55,899
some sort of memory and behavior

3522
02:19:01,469 --> 02:18:58,540
modification that was done on him at

3523
02:19:03,870 --> 02:19:01,479
certain times and I guess further by

3524
02:19:06,089 --> 02:19:03,880
saying the person who turned him on to

3525
02:19:06,719 --> 02:19:06,099
all this edie teller was the father of

3526
02:19:09,179 --> 02:19:06,729
the Hydra

3527
02:19:12,239 --> 02:19:09,189
embalm who he claims he met at los

3528
02:19:14,399 --> 02:19:12,249
alamos where he claimed he worked he was

3529
02:19:16,849 --> 02:19:14,409
found in the phonebook there George

3530
02:19:18,629 --> 02:19:16,859
Knapp and others have have at least

3531
02:19:21,419 --> 02:19:18,639
demonstrated that he was there but

3532
02:19:24,299 --> 02:19:21,429
there's no record of his involvement at

3533
02:19:27,299 --> 02:19:24,309
the lab there and also no record of his

3534
02:19:29,370 --> 02:19:27,309
claim credentials at MIT well if this

3535
02:19:30,899 --> 02:19:29,380
was a dissertation operation that was

3536
02:19:32,609 --> 02:19:30,909
run by one little group within the

3537
02:19:34,049 --> 02:19:32,619
government even the group he is working

3538
02:19:36,359 --> 02:19:34,059
for may not have had knowledge of it

3539
02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:36,369
that's the way that tends to go there is

3540
02:19:40,169 --> 02:19:38,800
I've seen a videotape of somebody going

3541
02:19:42,479 --> 02:19:40,179
in to talk to teller and they had a

3542
02:19:44,879 --> 02:19:42,489
video camera I think in a briefcase

3543
02:19:46,979 --> 02:19:44,889
and I'm not there's nap but maybe you

3544
02:19:49,950 --> 02:19:46,989
guys can remember this and tell us being

3545
02:19:51,929 --> 02:19:49,960
asked about about this subject and he

3546
02:19:53,819 --> 02:19:51,939
doesn't know he's on camera if you were

3547
02:19:55,529 --> 02:19:53,829
to ask me about you know Bob Lazar I

3548
02:20:00,660 --> 02:19:55,539
won't talk I won't talk I won't talk

3549
02:20:03,300 --> 02:20:00,670
about that you know the guy and he

3550
02:20:06,809 --> 02:20:03,310
created a month right yeah you know he

3551
02:20:08,880 --> 02:20:06,819
was very you ever seen that clip I've

3552
02:20:15,479 --> 02:20:08,890
seen seem reference to it too also in

3553
02:20:15,719 --> 02:20:15,489
books but this not or I'm not going

3554
02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:15,729
there

3555
02:20:21,090 --> 02:20:18,220
conversation it could be for other

3556
02:20:23,010 --> 02:20:21,100
reasons who know nothing about that

3557
02:20:25,489 --> 02:20:23,020
depends which want to read into it but

3558
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:25,499
the fact that you know he had been out

3559
02:20:31,290 --> 02:20:29,050
Leno Los Alamos National Lab that they

3560
02:20:33,809 --> 02:20:31,300
did fire him the phone book that Knapp

3561
02:20:35,399 --> 02:20:33,819
has gone there with him and people waved

3562
02:20:37,380 --> 02:20:35,409
out of mr. Dillo to him and he was a

3563
02:20:39,599 --> 02:20:37,390
able to go quite deep into the facility

3564
02:20:41,880 --> 02:20:39,609
validation he had some kind of position

3565
02:20:45,059 --> 02:20:41,890
there at some point and they might have

3566
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:45,069
decided to use him just after that you

3567
02:20:50,370 --> 02:20:47,850
know who knows what psychological

3568
02:20:53,399 --> 02:20:50,380
profile is gonna like you know come up

3569
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:53,409
in be red-flagged for a perfect

3570
02:20:58,139 --> 02:20:56,170
disinformation agent and oftentimes the

3571
02:20:59,189 --> 02:20:58,149
best disinformation agents don't even

3572
02:21:03,569 --> 02:20:59,199
realize that's what they're being used

3573
02:21:05,609 --> 02:21:03,579
for you know and that's one of the

3574
02:21:07,290 --> 02:21:05,619
things Adam was warning me about like

3575
02:21:09,689 --> 02:21:07,300
watch it you know they turn you into an

3576
02:21:11,130 --> 02:21:09,699
asset you won't even know it and you

3577
02:21:14,069 --> 02:21:11,140
know those were very prophetic words I

3578
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:14,079
mean I carried that you know very close

3579
02:21:16,319 --> 02:21:14,800
to my chest

3580
02:21:18,239 --> 02:21:16,329
every time I've met with these people I

3581
02:21:19,890 --> 02:21:18,249
wish I was an asset because then maybe I

3582
02:21:22,081 --> 02:21:19,900
could like call him on it and they could

3583
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:22,091
I've secretly one night with a Samsonite

3584
02:21:30,180 --> 02:21:24,490
filled with the unmarked hundred-dollar

3585
02:21:33,331 --> 02:21:30,190
bills yeah

3586
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:33,341
I'll print up a card but you also have

3587
02:21:38,190 --> 02:21:36,160
to wonder here when people like Lazar do

3588
02:21:40,921 --> 02:21:38,200
this is he just a doofus who is being

3589
02:21:43,711 --> 02:21:40,931
manipulated every step of the way to do

3590
02:21:46,081 --> 02:21:43,721
what he's doing I don't know I won like

3591
02:21:49,501 --> 02:21:46,091
a lot of his mind I felt something is

3592
02:21:52,081 --> 02:21:49,511
using us something some wives and

3593
02:21:58,560 --> 02:21:52,091
girlfriends oh yeah without the obvious

3594
02:22:00,871 --> 02:21:58,570
though you know hey I will ever get to a

3595
02:22:04,890 --> 02:22:00,881
bottom on the Bob Lazar case I have know

3596
02:22:07,950 --> 02:22:04,900
another theory that for the purpose of

3597
02:22:10,381 --> 02:22:07,960
that very very pseudo-scientific

3598
02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:10,391
description of how the saucer work

3599
02:22:17,671 --> 02:22:14,490
wasn't directly put out there to mislead

3600
02:22:20,011 --> 02:22:17,681
espionage teams from other countries how

3601
02:22:22,171 --> 02:22:20,021
successful that was I don't know but

3602
02:22:24,390 --> 02:22:22,181
this discussion of the liquors of being

3603
02:22:27,871 --> 02:22:24,400
president Bob Lazar and the fact that

3604
02:22:32,341 --> 02:22:27,881
the Nippon television had contacted

3605
02:22:35,490 --> 02:22:32,351
Norio Hayakawa and asked him to take

3606
02:22:37,711 --> 02:22:35,500
them out area 51 because they were

3607
02:22:39,421 --> 02:22:37,721
fascinated with this UFO story and they

3608
02:22:40,921 --> 02:22:39,431
went out there and they took the team

3609
02:22:42,301 --> 02:22:40,931
art there were several times and I was

3610
02:22:44,450 --> 02:22:42,311
out there once or twice just

3611
02:22:46,650 --> 02:22:44,460
coincidentally what they were out there

3612
02:22:49,470 --> 02:22:46,660
running around taking videos the thing

3613
02:22:51,301 --> 02:22:49,480
you know and they had some pretty

3614
02:22:52,890 --> 02:22:51,311
dramatic experiences that seemed though

3615
02:22:56,910 --> 02:22:52,900
with their camera equipment at one point

3616
02:22:58,860 --> 02:22:56,920
I remember a helicopter came out and

3617
02:23:01,461 --> 02:22:58,870
they had tried to get as close in as

3618
02:23:04,860 --> 02:23:01,471
they could on one of the dirt road and

3619
02:23:06,990 --> 02:23:04,870
to the actual real limit and there were

3620
02:23:08,970 --> 02:23:07,000
the the wagon hot dudes out there and

3621
02:23:10,711 --> 02:23:08,980
they the truck started coming towards

3622
02:23:13,020 --> 02:23:10,721
them so they turned around so - heading

3623
02:23:15,720 --> 02:23:13,030
out down this road this helicopter come

3624
02:23:18,001 --> 02:23:15,730
and actually comes down right over the

3625
02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:18,011
car and actually starts bouncing on the

3626
02:23:22,410 --> 02:23:21,280
cars roof with a skid right and brings

3627
02:23:25,320 --> 02:23:22,420
that car to a stop

3628
02:23:27,421 --> 02:23:25,330
Wow you saw that well I saw the video of

3629
02:23:29,671 --> 02:23:27,431
that part of it and I and the audio and

3630
02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:29,681
the people inside the car yeah and that

3631
02:23:34,960 --> 02:23:32,930
beat is available I don't Don has it

3632
02:23:37,630 --> 02:23:34,970
seen that I'd yeah yeah send me a link

3633
02:23:39,540 --> 02:23:37,640
man well I don't have a link but if I

3634
02:23:42,219 --> 02:23:39,550
can find it I'll let you know

3635
02:23:43,960 --> 02:23:42,229
well norio bill if you go on Facebook

3636
02:23:45,670 --> 02:23:43,970
Tenorio in Aspen boy and he'll be able

3637
02:23:47,380 --> 02:23:45,680
to tell you about that there's a rose on

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Facebook so everybody on the plan that

3639
02:23:50,380 --> 02:23:49,340
can see it that would be fun yeah norio

3640
02:23:52,750 --> 02:23:50,390
could probably do that because I think

3641
02:23:55,450 --> 02:23:52,760
it's his foot but this was you know with

3642
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this Japanese camera team and but Mike

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02:23:59,650 --> 02:23:57,199
younger who pointed out to us and said

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to me before when outdated do you know

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either can make pope you're listening to

3758
02:28:51,160 --> 02:28:47,960
the paragraph there's an accent that is

3759
02:28:54,341 --> 02:28:51,170
not just Imperial I don't want to get

3760
02:28:58,480 --> 02:28:54,351
into it because you're sound like the

3761
02:29:01,751 --> 02:28:58,490
train Ian possibly yes actually you just

3762
02:29:03,461 --> 02:29:01,761
sounded like Nuria the work of that

3763
02:29:05,171 --> 02:29:03,471
well norio is gonna call us now he's

3764
02:29:07,450 --> 02:29:05,181
been on the show we have Richard Serra

3765
02:29:10,301 --> 02:29:07,460
Det who's going to regale you with all

3766
02:29:12,430 --> 02:29:10,311
the voices that he does the rest of the

3767
02:29:14,051 --> 02:29:12,440
show the remaining 10 or 11 minutes of

3768
02:29:15,881 --> 02:29:14,061
the show with gene and Chris and the

3769
02:29:19,030 --> 02:29:15,891
power cast he's the quiet researcher

3770
02:29:20,830 --> 02:29:19,040
coming forth about first dr. karla

3771
02:29:22,570 --> 02:29:20,840
turner and we were focusing on possible

3772
02:29:25,870 --> 02:29:22,580
government disinformation involved there

3773
02:29:28,091 --> 02:29:25,880
also with regard to the strange story of

3774
02:29:30,551 --> 02:29:28,101
bob lazar what he's all about

3775
02:29:32,110 --> 02:29:30,561
now i did this a few times in the show

3776
02:29:34,030 --> 02:29:32,120
and got myself in trouble and i'll do it

3777
02:29:37,180 --> 02:29:34,040
again okay because i've been in so much

3778
02:29:41,950 --> 02:29:37,190
trouble on the show really i've become

3779
02:29:43,511 --> 02:29:41,960
the power cast soap opera in chief wait

3780
02:29:45,251 --> 02:29:43,521
a minute you can't claim that title I

3781
02:29:46,930 --> 02:29:45,261
thought it was me I'm the one that's

3782
02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:46,940
always in trouble you get off scot-free

3783
02:29:51,310 --> 02:29:49,490
what are you talking about alright right

3784
02:29:52,990 --> 02:29:51,320
especially after I added that strange

3785
02:29:53,530 --> 02:29:53,000
license plate to my car we'll get into

3786
02:29:55,720 --> 02:29:53,540
that later

3787
02:29:58,930 --> 02:29:55,730
we don't wander to ask what that's all

3788
02:30:00,970 --> 02:29:58,940
about but for you first there was

3789
02:30:03,220 --> 02:30:00,980
somebody who posted right away after I

3790
02:30:04,810 --> 02:30:03,230
did called parinama to follow up or

3791
02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:04,820
something did you see those posts and

3792
02:30:09,640 --> 02:30:06,650
she found like the first thing was

3793
02:30:12,341 --> 02:30:09,650
ridiculous so yeah we believe the under

3794
02:30:14,620 --> 02:30:12,351
the bridge crowd has kind of invaded the

3795
02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:14,630
show the last week it it's kind of

3796
02:30:25,030 --> 02:30:22,610
disconcerting like this 51% of the time

3797
02:30:27,131 --> 02:30:25,040
is advertising it's like well yeah

3798
02:30:28,600 --> 02:30:27,141
that's something you could comment on I

3799
02:30:30,251 --> 02:30:28,610
mean okay but you know what's

3800
02:30:32,560 --> 02:30:30,261
interesting about it somebody actually

3801
02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:32,570
put that up if the show is advertising

3802
02:30:37,870 --> 02:30:36,170
now oh what's really crazy here is and I

3803
02:30:40,270 --> 02:30:37,880
always wonder about this the power cast

3804
02:30:42,430 --> 02:30:40,280
is a network radio show and we follow

3805
02:30:45,640 --> 02:30:42,440
what they call the Clear Channel model

3806
02:30:47,530 --> 02:30:45,650
of commercial breaks right so therefore

3807
02:30:49,810 --> 02:30:47,540
we have roughly two hours of material on

3808
02:30:51,790 --> 02:30:49,820
a show that lasts two hours and 39

3809
02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:51,800
minutes which is what 25 or 26 percent

3810
02:30:55,840 --> 02:30:53,210
commercials

3811
02:30:57,670 --> 02:30:55,850
this is pretty strict I mean we're not

3812
02:31:00,460 --> 02:30:57,680
the only one who does that the same

3813
02:31:02,520 --> 02:31:00,470
schedule is adhere to with coast to

3814
02:31:04,750 --> 02:31:02,530
coast we have Randy Rhoads illiberal

3815
02:31:07,930 --> 02:31:04,760
Rush Limbaugh of the conservative

3816
02:31:10,719 --> 02:31:07,940
hundreds of radio shows around the USA

3817
02:31:13,390 --> 02:31:10,729
have exactly the same number of

3818
02:31:15,010 --> 02:31:13,400
commercials as we do now yeah I guess we

3819
02:31:18,010 --> 02:31:15,020
could all say we'd like to see less and

3820
02:31:19,210 --> 02:31:18,020
it is less they used to be radio shows

3821
02:31:21,580 --> 02:31:19,220
used to have more commercials than they

3822
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:21,590
do now we'd like to see less but of

3823
02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:23,210
course a network has to make a buck so

3824
02:31:28,180 --> 02:31:25,850
there you go hold on one second it's not

3825
02:31:31,120 --> 02:31:28,190
the number of commercials it's the it's

3826
02:31:33,880 --> 02:31:31,130
the actual commercial time our show has

3827
02:31:35,710 --> 02:31:33,890
a lot of small 15-second commercials so

3828
02:31:37,900 --> 02:31:35,720
it seems like a lot longer yeah the

3829
02:31:39,910 --> 02:31:37,910
reason they do that as a sponsor we'll

3830
02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:39,920
learn that they can get a really good

3831
02:31:44,680 --> 02:31:42,650
rate on 15-second commercials and the

3832
02:31:46,450 --> 02:31:44,690
network says well for 15-second

3833
02:31:49,090 --> 02:31:46,460
commercials make them a lot more money

3834
02:31:51,160 --> 02:31:49,100
than a single couple of 30 seconds or a

3835
02:31:52,900 --> 02:31:51,170
full minute because of the way the rates

3836
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:52,910
break down all right that's why you have

3837
02:31:55,000 --> 02:31:53,570
the problem

3838
02:31:56,890 --> 02:31:55,010
but I can't control what the network

3839
02:32:00,310 --> 02:31:56,900
does our commercials the ones that were

3840
02:32:06,310 --> 02:32:00,320
paid for there 30 seconds or 60 seconds

3841
02:32:08,620 --> 02:32:06,320
flat that's how you go but roll like

3842
02:32:10,390 --> 02:32:08,630
what he used this comment you wonder

3843
02:32:12,790 --> 02:32:10,400
also when since we're talking about

3844
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:12,800
government disinformation here and that

3845
02:32:18,730 --> 02:32:16,250
is I wonder what sort of possibility is

3846
02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:18,740
there that a widely trafficked form like

3847
02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:20,810
the para caste community forms whether

3848
02:32:25,660 --> 02:32:22,690
some of the people hanging out there are

3849
02:32:27,969 --> 02:32:25,670
government agents well what do you think

3850
02:32:30,580 --> 02:32:27,979
I mean if you were in their position and

3851
02:32:32,920 --> 02:32:30,590
had to market this subject and perhaps

3852
02:32:34,630 --> 02:32:32,930
influence it you know it might be a

3853
02:32:38,770 --> 02:32:34,640
classification that's your job just like

3854
02:32:40,180 --> 02:32:38,780
the 11 Bravo you know infants with my

3855
02:32:42,190 --> 02:32:40,190
first assignment if I had followed

3856
02:32:43,990 --> 02:32:42,200
through with army security agency and

3857
02:32:46,810 --> 02:32:44,000
gone through the language school in

3858
02:32:48,820 --> 02:32:46,820
Monterey and learned 47 weeks a course

3859
02:32:50,620 --> 02:32:48,830
in German to you he not only speak it

3860
02:32:52,900 --> 02:32:50,630
like a native but you recognize all the

3861
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:52,910
regional accents etc the first thing

3862
02:32:56,080 --> 02:32:54,110
Simon I would have had would have been

3863
02:32:57,790 --> 02:32:56,090
sitting on the edge of these Germany on

3864
02:32:59,920 --> 02:32:57,800
the West German side with a pair of

3865
02:33:02,410 --> 02:32:59,930
earphones on listening to everything

3866
02:33:04,510 --> 02:33:02,420
that would've been my first job you know

3867
02:33:06,100 --> 02:33:04,520
so yeah they monitor I mean the

3868
02:33:07,150 --> 02:33:06,110
government monitors everything it needs

3869
02:33:08,591 --> 02:33:07,160
to monitor

3870
02:33:11,500 --> 02:33:08,601
and they're not using the machine that's

3871
02:33:13,960 --> 02:33:11,510
available in that TV series person of

3872
02:33:15,790 --> 02:33:13,970
interest or are they how close to the

3873
02:33:18,131 --> 02:33:15,800
truth is there about a universal

3874
02:33:20,410 --> 02:33:18,141
computer that tracks everyone well

3875
02:33:23,801 --> 02:33:20,420
before we even go there gene I I think

3876
02:33:27,490 --> 02:33:23,811
the very fact that the pair cast has

3877
02:33:29,110 --> 02:33:27,500
drawn out some of the more well in three

3878
02:33:32,110 --> 02:33:29,120
years I haven't seen the kinds of tools

3879
02:33:35,350 --> 02:33:32,120
that have turned up recently that that

3880
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:35,360
we have and I think that to me is

3881
02:33:39,131 --> 02:33:37,610
actually a compliment because it

3882
02:33:41,710 --> 02:33:39,141
indicates to me that we're getting

3883
02:33:44,770 --> 02:33:41,720
maybe uncomfortably close to the core of

3884
02:33:47,140 --> 02:33:44,780
certain subjects and that tends to

3885
02:33:50,080 --> 02:33:47,150
ratchet up the heat in the response and

3886
02:33:53,740 --> 02:33:50,090
that that's just a possibility I'm not

3887
02:33:56,320 --> 02:33:53,750
saying that so but but I take it as a as

3888
02:33:58,350 --> 02:33:56,330
a compliment that these trolls have come

3889
02:34:01,780 --> 02:33:58,360
out and really tried to attack the show

3890
02:34:04,570 --> 02:34:01,790
and attacked us personally oh I've seen

3891
02:34:05,830 --> 02:34:04,580
a lot of that over the years and one of

3892
02:34:07,870 --> 02:34:05,840
the reasons is one of the things that

3893
02:34:10,480 --> 02:34:07,880
differentiates the power cast and you

3894
02:34:12,190 --> 02:34:10,490
know shows like radio mysterioso and

3895
02:34:13,450 --> 02:34:12,200
dark matters is the fact that we're not

3896
02:34:15,430 --> 02:34:13,460
afraid to ask questions just ask

3897
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:15,440
questions somebody says something and we

3898
02:34:20,080 --> 02:34:18,050
say okay what's your basis for that very

3899
02:34:21,970 --> 02:34:20,090
simple questions we ask basic questions

3900
02:34:23,500 --> 02:34:21,980
that any journalists should ask about

3901
02:34:24,940 --> 02:34:23,510
someone and if we have evidence that

3902
02:34:27,310 --> 02:34:24,950
someone's being deceptive we will

3903
02:34:29,320 --> 02:34:27,320
presented but a lot of shows out there

3904
02:34:31,930 --> 02:34:29,330
you know we'll let it guess say any

3905
02:34:33,910 --> 02:34:31,940
outlandish thing that they have coming

3906
02:34:36,610 --> 02:34:33,920
to their mind and their follow up will

3907
02:34:40,450 --> 02:34:36,620
be whether you have any hobbies and we

3908
02:34:45,220 --> 02:34:40,460
know which show we're talking about yep

3909
02:34:46,631 --> 02:34:45,230
yeah CC and CC right and guess what they

3910
02:34:49,750 --> 02:34:46,641
have the same number of commercials per

3911
02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:49,760
hour as we do yeah the whole idea that

3912
02:34:54,190 --> 02:34:52,130
you get to listen for free to something

3913
02:34:56,140 --> 02:34:54,200
that takes an infrastructure to bring it

3914
02:34:58,210 --> 02:34:56,150
to you and a lot of work for people it's

3915
02:35:00,280 --> 02:34:58,220
like oh you know somebody's got paid for

3916
02:35:01,870 --> 02:35:00,290
it send a check in if you want you know

3917
02:35:03,310 --> 02:35:01,880
if you want to cover the cost of all the

3918
02:35:05,290 --> 02:35:03,320
advertising that would come off with

3919
02:35:07,180 --> 02:35:05,300
these 500 stations you know feel free

3920
02:35:09,370 --> 02:35:07,190
we'd be the love they I get that kind of

3921
02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:09,380
gift and maybe know a Rockefeller or you

3922
02:35:15,160 --> 02:35:11,690
know I like to have a personal phone

3923
02:35:17,620 --> 02:35:15,170
line to Warren Buffett well I yeah you

3924
02:35:19,420 --> 02:35:17,630
know I say the Gecko run Geico

3925
02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:19,430
commercials instead of giving us geckos

3926
02:35:22,139 --> 02:35:20,170
and stuff

3927
02:35:25,170 --> 02:35:22,149
why don't you write a couple of checks

3928
02:35:27,899 --> 02:35:25,180
to good power normal radio shows help us

3929
02:35:29,849 --> 02:35:27,909
get distribution and this way we don't

3930
02:35:31,439 --> 02:35:29,859
have to work within the network system

3931
02:35:34,830 --> 02:35:31,449
well then they'll want to own all the

3932
02:35:38,420 --> 02:35:34,840
material like a Robert Bigelow exactly

3933
02:35:40,559 --> 02:35:38,430
by the way what's up with that gecko

3934
02:35:45,030 --> 02:35:40,569
Chile we're talking about talking

3935
02:35:51,689 --> 02:35:45,040
talking milking that little lizard for

3936
02:35:53,070 --> 02:35:51,699
God what 12 15 years already the back of

3937
02:35:54,719 --> 02:35:53,080
a limo and he just kind of looked at me

3938
02:35:56,939 --> 02:35:54,729
and kind of gave me a wink you know I

3939
02:35:59,099 --> 02:35:56,949
thought you live at that aren't you he

3940
02:36:01,320 --> 02:35:59,109
just smiled and nodded high on the hog

3941
02:36:03,450 --> 02:36:01,330
there yeah life is good

3942
02:36:08,729 --> 02:36:03,460
here I can't get an acting job and this

3943
02:36:10,979 --> 02:36:08,739
geckos get rid does the voice for the

3944
02:36:15,719 --> 02:36:10,989
echo but that voice-over artist is

3945
02:36:18,149 --> 02:36:15,729
getting a lot of bread yeah also the guy

3946
02:36:19,920 --> 02:36:18,159
who does the law and order TV series you

3947
02:36:22,920 --> 02:36:19,930
know at the beginning that one paragraph

3948
02:36:25,649 --> 02:36:22,930
introduction yeah that voice has been

3949
02:36:27,870 --> 02:36:25,659
used for 20 years every time you hear

3950
02:36:29,639 --> 02:36:27,880
that voice on Law & Order every time you

3951
02:36:32,370 --> 02:36:29,649
hear the sequel's law and order criminal

3952
02:36:34,410 --> 02:36:32,380
intent Special Victims Unit all that

3953
02:36:37,050 --> 02:36:34,420
stuff every time those shows are

3954
02:36:38,580 --> 02:36:37,060
presented this guy who maybe spent ten

3955
02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:38,590
minutes doing all those recordings is

3956
02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:41,890
making a check that's why if it's a

3957
02:36:45,570 --> 02:36:43,840
small coterie it's like a little mafia

3958
02:36:47,490 --> 02:36:45,580
kind of break into that group man you've

3959
02:36:49,920 --> 02:36:47,500
got a head full well that famous

3960
02:36:51,689 --> 02:36:49,930
announcer I forget his name who used to

3961
02:36:57,210 --> 02:36:51,699
do all the movie trailers in a world

3962
02:37:03,710 --> 02:36:57,220
where he who did all the newsreel stuff

3963
02:37:08,700 --> 02:37:05,910
certain voices are just so good for

3964
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:08,710
voiceover I did tons of it for for what

3965
02:37:13,290 --> 02:37:11,439
you call industrial film noir for

3966
02:37:17,309 --> 02:37:13,300
companies I you know and I did small

3967
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:17,319
films in house built for like IBM that

3968
02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:19,600
were teaching them something new I'd do

3969
02:37:24,990 --> 02:37:22,210
one where I was teaching IBM managers

3970
02:37:26,429 --> 02:37:25,000
how to fire somebody there's a lot of

3971
02:37:28,349 --> 02:37:26,439
work like that that actors do don't see

3972
02:37:30,090 --> 02:37:28,359
in their resume it pays the paid scale

3973
02:37:32,370 --> 02:37:30,100
you know and it could be two three four

3974
02:37:33,240 --> 02:37:32,380
five days work you know what in terms of

3975
02:37:33,940 --> 02:37:33,250
firing people

3976
02:37:36,460 --> 02:37:33,950
here's

3977
02:37:38,530 --> 02:37:36,470
my politically incorrect solution they

3978
02:37:39,970 --> 02:37:38,540
use the voice of Mitt Romney if he

3979
02:37:42,310 --> 02:37:39,980
doesn't make it as president he gets a

3980
02:37:43,690 --> 02:37:42,320
job this way you can record the

3981
02:37:46,421 --> 02:37:43,700
voiceovers and fire people it's like

3982
02:37:47,110 --> 02:37:46,431
famous man how about Donald Trump you're

3983
02:37:49,511 --> 02:37:47,120
fired

3984
02:37:51,520 --> 02:37:49,521
yeah but that's too much of a cliche

3985
02:37:53,980 --> 02:37:51,530
thinking of great voices of course Fred

3986
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Foy it was an ABC announcer who did the

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Lone Ranger Richard Serra dead as a

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quiet researcher is there any way people

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can check you out online and find more

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of the things you do I don't tend to

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post a lot that and I don't tend to go

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to Facebook every day actually I'm right

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now working on two projects with with

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the writing part Marek I earn the

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paragraph we are working on several

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things one we start out with a

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nonfiction and the second we're doing is

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the fiction and uh it could it be you

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know something we're gonna fit that

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isn't worth day anymore about Bigfoot

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now okay we're already hearing more

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about the book project and the stuff

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you're working on Chris O'Brien site is

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our strange planet come our strange

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planet come because this is a strange

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planet our strange planet you can find

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the para casts on Twitter where we're

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known as the para cast and we also have

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a para cast Phantom Richard Serra net

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thanks for joining us this week on the

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[Music]

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the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

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and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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presentation of making the impossible